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Don't take this personaly, but do you really think I never read those verses before? Do you really think that grabbing a couple verses out of the Bible and quoting them is going to do anything to cause me to agree with your INTERPETATION of those verses? I shake my head in wonder and saddness that anyone could think a reply like that actually have a chance of winning someone over. A reply like that will play well with those who already agree with you, but does NOTHING to convince anyone else.

I know those verses well, and belive in them as with the rest of the Bible. From my POV there is no conflict between them and my faith, our teachings are what Christ taught, and it is YOU who have been mislead into 'another gospel'.

I think I heard Ephesians 2:8-9 dozens of times before I believed it and understood it.

I had a POV that did not agree with that verse, but eventually I was changed.