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To: ninenot
direct proof that UltR and Zvi are WRONG--the gates of Hell will NOT prevail.

Uh...when did I say they would? Are you so desperate to attack that you falsely attribute words to others? Is that the way you argue a point?

Do you think the Church has never been in crisis before? Ever heard of the Arian heresy?

233 posted on 12/02/2002 8:53:37 AM PST by Zviadist
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To: Zviadist; ultima ratio; ninenot; Polycarp
Various motives have been brought forward in justification of Schism:

(1) Some have claimed the introduction into the Church of abuses, dogmatic and liturgical novelties, superstitions, with which they are permitted, even bound, not to ally themselves. Without entering into the foundation for these charges it should be noted that the authors cited above do not mention or admit a single exception. If we accept their statements separation from the Church is necessarily an evil, an injurious and blameworthy act, and abandoning of the true way of salvation, and this independent of all contingent circumstances. Moreover the doctrines of the Fathers exclude a priori any such attempt at justification; to use their words, it is forbidden for individuals or particular or national Churches to constitute themselves judges of the universal Church; the mere fact of having it against one carries its own condemnation.

<> That is from the Old Catholic Encyclopedia. There is nothing new in you schismatics trying to justify the indefensible.<>

240 posted on 12/02/2002 9:42:56 AM PST by Catholicguy
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