[WriteOn]

I'm curious to see if anyone wants to defend this? And if you are not in the free grace camp how can you say that you don't have a "works"-based soteriology? What would be the middle ground between Lordship salvation and it's implication for works and free grace?

[WriteOn]

Lordship or not? Is there a middle ground?

[CCWoody]

I think that this article is not very good. Calvinism is all about the free Grace of God. And to equate Lordship salvation with works is not correct either. Are you just trying to stir up something with the Protestants?

[sharktrager]

I would argue that lordship theology does not have to be works based. What it requires of the believer is that they follow God's commandments. It also, to my way of thinking, requires that we admit our sin and ask for forgiveness.

Personally, I have seen what Free Grace Theology can do to it's believers. Once you accept the idea that you can do whatever you want, no matter the consequences, and it will not affect your salvation, you have no reason to follow the laws.

It is my opinion that neither thology outlined in the article is accurate.

For many in the Free Grace camp, they have taken the idea to an extream. This is, of course, known as "cheap grace". They will knowingly commit a wrong, because they have remembered that God will forgive them as long as they ask. Unfortunately, I feel that these people are doomed for 2 reasons. First, one must be sincere in their faith and prayers for forgiveness. These people are not sincere.

Secondly, they often did not truly as Christ in to their heart. It isn't enough to recite a prayer, you have to truly mean it. In Romans 6, Paul wrote:

1: What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound?
2: By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it?

If their salvation is legitimate, they can not knowingly live in sin.

The Lordship Grace people are often in the right track, but they confuse works with faith. I believe that works are an offshoot of our salvation, not a cause of it. We perform these tasks because it is the right thing to do, not in hopes of rewards on earth or in heaven.

Like most things, the problems with these two philosophies come from those who take them to an extreme.

[Jerry_M]

Q. What is "Free Grace" Theology?

A. A hijacking of the term grace.

Period. End of story.