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To: ultima ratio
Slavish? I mostly identify as Irish. [sarcasm}

Oh, you mean like being a slave of Christ and of the Vicar of Christ on Earth??? Well, if one is going to be a slave, it makes sense to be a slave of Christ. Oh, that's right, that may not seem as obvious when you have rejected His Church for a taste factory of your own preference. If you think I am arrogant now, you should have known me when I was a teenager or a young lawyer. I've mellowed quite a bit.

I do not congratulate myself. I merely streetfight as every good elk should on behalf of Jesus Christ and His own Church. Sorry you are no longer up to being among us.

I also see that you think Jesus Christ made a mistake of some sort in choosing Judas. Didn't He tell Judas at the Last Supper to do what he had to do? My Savior does not, did not and never will make mistakes.

Cardinal Wyczinski was not fond of Fr. Wojtlywa (JPII) in his earliest priesthood but they became quite close thereafter. It is understood that Wyczinski was JPII's kingmaker at the conclave. It is also quite well understood that, after the assassination attempt by Muhammed Ali Agca, as the pope lay recovering from his grievous wounds and Wyczinski lay dying of cancer in Poland, they spent gobs of time in mutual conversations that were their last due to Wyczinski's death. Your history is as deficient as your humility and submission to the pope.

As to your status as married man with kids, the Holy Ghost is wonderful. He can do anything including making a married man like you or someone like you pope. Williamson isn't married, is he? Fellay? Don't hold your breath waiting for the election of such as you or them, however.

Oh, and Jesus Christ did not found SSPX or any other schismatic group.

AND, I didn't think you would get around to the substantive arguments.

My sedan chair and my slaves, please. Ther is nothing new here and work to be done with others.

179 posted on 11/13/2002 10:54:15 PM PST by BlackElk
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To: BlackElk
Again, you miss the point. It was not that Jesus made a mistake in picking Judas, it was that his selection didn't suspend Judas' freedom to do evil. You may have passed the bar, but you don't pass basic catachesis. As for the SSPX, get used to it. It's all that's left of the old faith and it's growing as fast as the new religion is dissolving in its own sorry corruptions. And while you may fancy yourself a Catholic and delude yourself that I am not, you should know I believe and practice exactly what Catholics have believed and practiced for the past two thousand years. If I'm out of line, so is the entire history of the Church until the new religion was unjustly imposed. After all, the Society doesn't go around praying with animists and excusing Jews from a need for redemption. Nor does it routinely violate the Council of Trent. All that's strictly a post-conciliar thing, concocted by geniuses who happen to like pedophiles, out of line with anything that remotely resembles Christian revelation. And by the way--none of you have bothered to answer the question I posed earlier, to wit: if I am wrong to hear the ancient Mass in an SSPX chapel, what does that make the Pope who prays with witchdoctors? I mean PRAYS with them, placing their fantasies on a par with the Catholic faith, not just schmooze with them. Or doesn't the First Commandment apply to popes?
187 posted on 11/14/2002 6:21:14 AM PST by ultima ratio
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