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To: Dajjal
Fourth Lateran Bump

Oh, that's very nice. You are in favor of these canons?

Fourth Lateran Council, 1215
Canons on Jews




CANON 67



Summary. Jews should be compelled to make satisfaction for the tithes and offerings to churches, which the Christians supplied before their properties fell into the hands of the Jews.

Text. The more the Christians are restrained from the practice of usury, the more are they oppressed in this matter by the treachery of the Jews, so that in a short time they exhaust the resources of the Christians. Wishing, therefore, in this matter to protect the Christians against cruel oppression by the Jews, we ordain in this decree that if in the future under any pretext Jews extort from Christians oppressive and immoderate interest, the partnership of the Christians shall be denied them till they have made suitable satisfaction for their excesses. The Christians also, every appeal being set aside, shall, if necessary, be compelled by ecclesiastical censure to abstain from all commercial intercourse with them. We command the princes not to be hostile to the Christians on this account, but rather to strive to hinder the Jews from practicing such excesses. Lastly, we decree that the Jews be compelled by the same punishment (avoidance of commercial intercourse) to make satisfaction for the tithes and offerings due to the churches, which the Christians were accustomed to supply from their houses and other possessions before these properties, under whatever title, fell into the hands of the Jews, that thus the churches may be safeguarded against loss.



CANON 68



Summary. Jews and Saracens of both sexes in every Christian province must be distinguished from the Christian by a difference of dress. On Passion Sunday and the last three days of Holy Week they may not appear in public.

Text: In some provinces a difference in dress distinguishes the Jews or Saracens from the Christians, but in certain others such a confusion has grown up that they cannot be distinguished by any difference. Thus it happens at times that through error Christians have relations with the women of Jews or Saracens, and Jews and Saracens with Christian women. Therefore, that they may not, under pretext of error of this sort, excuse themselves in the future for the excesses of such prohibited intercourse, we decree that such Jews and Saracens of both sexes in every Christian province and at all times shall be marked off in the eyes of the public from other peoples through the character of their dress. Particularly, since it may be read in the writings of Moses [Numbers 15:37-41], that this very law has been enjoined upon them.

Moreover, during the last three days before Easter and especially on Good Friday, they shall not go forth in public at all, for the reason that some of them on these very days, as we hear, do not blush to go forth better dressed and are not afraid to mock the Christians who maintain the memory of the most holy Passion by wearing signs of mourning.

This, however, we forbid most severely, that any one should presume at all to break forth in insult to the Redeemer. And since we ought not to ignore any insult to Him who blotted out our disgraceful deeds, we command that such impudent fellows be checked by the secular princes by imposing them proper punishment so that they shall not at all presume to blaspheme Him who was crucified for us.

[Note by Schroeder: In 581 the Synod of Macon enacted in canon 14 that from Thursday in Holy Week until Easter Sunday. Jews may not in accordance with a decision of King Childebert appear in the streets and in public places. Mansi, IX, 934; Hefele-Leclercq, 111, 204. In 1227 the Synod of Narbonne in canon 3 ruled: "That Jews may be distinguished from others, we decree and emphatically command that in the center of the breast (of their garments) they shall wear an oval badge, the measure of one finger in width and one half a palm in height. We forbid them moreover, to work publicly on Sundays and on festivals. And lest they scandalize Christians or be scandalized by Christians, we wish and ordain that during Holy Week they shall not leave their houses at all except in case of urgent necessity, and the prelates shall during that week especially have them guarded from vexation by the Christians." Mansi, XXIII, 22; Hefele-Leclercq V 1453. Many decrees similar to these in content were issued by synods before and after this Lateran Council. Hefele-Leclercq, V and VI; Grayzel, The Church and the Jews in the XIIIth Century, Philadelphia, 1933.]



CANON 69



Summary. Jews are not to be given public offices. Anyone instrumental in doing this is to be punished. A Jewish official is to be denied all intercourse with Christians.

Text. Since it is absurd that a blasphemer of Christ exercise authority over Christians, we on account of the boldness of transgressors renew in this general council what the Synod of Toledo (589) wisely enacted in this matter, prohibiting Jews from being given preference in the matter of public offices, since in such capacity they are most troublesome to the Christians. But if anyone should commit such an office to them, let him, after previous warning, be restrained by such punishment as seems proper by the provincial synod which we command to be celebrated every year. The official, however, shall be denied the commercial and other intercourse of the Christians, till in the judgment of the bishop all that he acquired from the Christians from the time he assumed office be restored for the needs of the Christian poor, and the office that he irreverently assumed let him lose with shame. The same we extend also to pagans. [Mansi, IX, 995; Hefele-Leclercq, III, 7.27. This canon 14 of Toledo was frequently renewed.]



CANON 70



Summary. Jews who have received baptism are to be restrained by the prelates from returning to their former rite.

Text. Some (Jews), we understand, who voluntarily approached the waters of holy baptism, do not entirely cast off the old man that they may more perfectly put on the new one, because, retaining remnants of the former rite, they obscure by such a mixture the beauty of the Christian religion. But since it is written: "Accursed is the man that goeth on the two ways" (Ecclus. 2:14), and "a garment that is woven together of woolen and linen" (Deut. 22: ii) ought not to be put on, we decree that such persons be in every way restrained b the prelates from the observance of the former rite, that, having given themselves of their own free will to the Christian religion, salutary coercive action may preserve them in its observance, since not to know the way of the Lord is a lesser evil than to retrace one's steps after it is known.

From H. J. Schroeder, Disciplinary Decrees of the General Councils: Text, Translation and Commentary, (St. Louis: B. Herder, 1937). pp. 236-296.

42 posted on 11/08/2002 2:47:38 PM PST by malakhi
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To: angelo
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47 posted on 11/08/2002 6:18:17 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: angelo
The Jews as the Christians Saw Them

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50 posted on 11/08/2002 6:46:57 PM PST by Irisshlass
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To: angelo
Why would those edicts make you doubt the saving power of Christ? Medieval Christendom wasn't a melting pot, a diverse society, or a Jacobin egalité regime -- it was a Christian society, de jure et de facto. Americans who are indoctrinated with the ideals of our secular, Enlightenment, humanistic culture are apt to gasp in shock at the very idea of elevating one religion above all others, but in those days the religious and governmental authorities were unafraid to acclaim Christianity as the one, true religion. Just as the worship of the goddess Liberty is our national faith today, so was the worship of Christ in the era of Christendom, and people of that age were no more "evil" for jealously guarding the Catholic Faith than we are for guarding our freedom. Just as we treat those outside our civic religion (illegal aliens, Moslems, communists, fascists, etc.) with prudent suspicion, those who were outside of the Christian faith and culture -- not only Jews, but Moslems, pagans, and other nonbelievers -- were considered aliens, interlopers, and/or parasites, and rightfully so. To condemn them is to condemn the very idea behind every true culture: the idea of identity, of Us and Them.

Were there excesses, horrors, crimes? Yes. But the same is true of every place and time in human history; let the culture without sin cast the first stone. In any case, allowing the actions of men to separate one from the love of Christ is a mistake. Truth is Truth, no matter what men say or do, and no bishop, cardinal, or even pope can contradict anything that the Church has taught. Such teaching is sui generis error; to teach error (i.e. to contradict the established teachings of the Church) is proof that the teacher does not possess the charism of infallibility and, therefore, cannot be considered a binding authority by believers. The pope that contradicts the dogmas of the Church is not the true pope.

54 posted on 11/08/2002 10:07:23 PM PST by B-Chan
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To: angelo
"Fourth Lateran Bump"
Oh, that's very nice. You are in favor of these canons?

Actually, I was only thinking of "Extra Ecclesiam, nulus salus" as a Catholic doctrine which Cardinal Kasper, et al. had forgotten.

Those canons concern not unchanging dogma, but prudential judgments made by the council in 1215. I believe that they were not codified out of malice, but out of concern for real problems at the time, and by early-13th century standards are humanistic.

69. If the law says that the Catholic Church is the official state religion, then provision was made that government authorities should be Catholic.

70. Apparently some sincerely baptised Jewish converts would continue practicing Jewish rituals alongside Catholic rituals. The council said they shouldn't mix the religions together.

67. The council was concerned that some moneylenders were charging such usurious interest rates that the lendees couldn't make a tithe to the local church. I'm not surprised they were concerned about this.

69a. Apparently men and women were falling in love and getting married to each other, only to discover after the wedding that one was Jewish and one was Catholic. In a typical medieval manner the council declared that the non-Catholics should dress differently.

69b. Apparently on Passion Sunday and during the Good Friday - Easter weekend, some non-Catholic smart alecks would mock the public devotions, and riots would predictably ensue. (I imagine that the non-Catholic minorities probably fared badly during the riots.) The council has a simple and absolute medieval solution: to keep the peace, all non-Catholics must remain indoors.

69c. (Schroeder's note) Catholics were forbidden by law to work on Sunday (and Holy Days). If they worked, they could be arrested and punished. Jews and Muslims, of course, would work on Sundays. The Synod of Narbonne said they should be discreet about it, and wear an emblem of their faith, showing that they had permission to work.

Did sinful men abuse the canons? Yes.

57 posted on 11/09/2002 8:53:33 AM PST by Dajjal
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To: angelo
Corrigendum: 69a, 69b, 69c = 68a, 68b, 68c.
58 posted on 11/09/2002 8:58:38 AM PST by Dajjal
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