[Loyalist]

A handy date for the official start of the Great Apostasy is January 25, 1959, the date when Roncalli, "J23", summoned Vatican II. It is also the anniversary of the January 25, 1938 night of the mysterious lights, warning of the great war, as foretold by Our Lady of Fatima in July 1917.

While picking specific dates for the beginning of the Great Apostasy might be an enjoyable parlour game, let's not get carried away here. It can become as silly as the endless declarations and hasty retractions of the Jehovah's Witnesses deadlines for the end of the world.

We can consider specific events as signs of the Great Apsotasy. But I don't think we'll know when it started, unfortunately, until it's over.

[Catholicguy]

But I don't think we'll know when it started, unfortunately, until it's over

<> It began with the first "Non Serviam."<>