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"...Jews do not have to convert in order to be saved,..." Card. Kasper
Catholic News Service ^ | Nov-7-2002 | John Thavis

Posted on 11/08/2002 7:23:24 AM PST by narses

VATICAN CITY (CNS) -- In their relations with Jews, Christians cannot conceal the strong missionary dimension of their faith, but also must recognize that Jews do not have to convert in order to be saved, a top Vatican official said.

Cardinal Walter Kasper, president of the Vatican's Commission for Religious Relations with the Jews, said Nov. 6 that Christians take a different missionary approach toward Jews than toward followers of other non-Christian religions.

That's because Christians and Jews share a long biblical and religious tradition, a belief in the same God and a conviction that God will complete human history, he said.

The main difference between the two faiths -- the salvific role of Jesus Christ -- must also be acknowledged, he said.

"The universality of Christ's redemption for Jews and gentiles is so fundamental throughout the entire New Testament ... that it cannot be ignored or passed over in silence," Cardinal Kasper said.

"This does not mean that Jews in order to be saved have to become Christians; if they follow their own conscience and believe in God's promises as they understand them in their religious tradition, they are in line with God's plan, which for us comes to historical completion in Jesus Christ," he said.

Cardinal Kasper spoke at the Center for Christian-Jewish Learning at Boston College. His text was made available to Catholic News Service by his office at the Vatican.

The cardinal's comments came amid increasing debate in the United States over the church's missionary attitude toward Jews. Last summer, Catholic and Jewish participants in a national dialogue issued a document that repudiated campaigns that target Jews for conversion, prompting criticism by some Christian leaders.

Cardinal Kasper said he wanted to "take the bull by the horns" and discuss the sensitive issue of mission -- in part, he said, because Christian-Jewish dialogue must look honestly at the hardest questions.

He said he recognized that the topic of mission evokes bitter memories among Jews because of forced conversions in the past.

"We sincerely reject and regret this today," he said. He noted that the Catholic Church now condemns all means of coercion in matters of faith.

But mission must be discussed, because it is a key concept for the Christian faith and part of the Christian identity, he said.

"We cannot cancel it, and if we should try to do so, it would not help the Jewish-Christian dialogue at all. Rather, it would make the dialogue dishonest and ultimately distort it," he said.

"If Jews want to speak to Christians, they cannot demand that Christians no longer be Christians," he said.

He said substituting the historically loaded word "mission" with another term like "evangelization" or "witness" may be helpful to Jewish-Christian dialogue, but will not by itself resolve the problem, which touches upon the very identities of both religions.

Cardinal Kasper pointed out that Christians and Jews share the Hebrew Bible/Old Testament; the common figures of Abraham, Moses, patriarchs and prophets; the covenant and promises of a unique God; and a messianic hope.

Because of all that, "mission understood as a call to conversion from idolatry to the living and true God does not apply and cannot be applied to Jews," he said.

That has tangible consequences, including the fact that there is "no Catholic missionary activity toward Jews as there is for all other non-Christian religions," he said.

Both religions open toward the future and the hope of fulfillment that God alone can bring, he said. But while Jews still expect the coming of the Messiah, Christians believe he has come as Jesus and will be revealed at the end of time as the Messiah for Jews and for all nations, he said.

While it may be painful for Jews to listen to such professions of Christian faith, it is inevitable in honest dialogue, the cardinal said.

"Our Jewish friends may say, as they do: 'You look on us with your Christian eyes.' Yes, we do, and how could we do otherwise? Jews, too, look on us with their eyes and out of the perspective of their faith," he said.

"We must endure and withstand this difference, because it constitutes our respective identities," he said.

Cardinal Kasper said that while Christians cannot "remain silent on our hope in Jesus" it is not a question of "targeting" Jews or others for conversion. For modern Christians, evangelization is accomplished primarily by living the faith and "giving testimony of Jesus Christ to all and in all places," he said.

That cannot be renounced by Christians, even though this testimony is undertaken differently in relations with Jews, he said.

Cardinal Kasper said the question of mission will ultimately be resolved in the context of a Christian theology of Judaism. The church is only at the beginning of this process, which began with the Second Vatican Council, he said.

"The long period of anti-Judaistic theology cannot be overcome in only 40 years," he said.

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1 posted on 11/08/2002 7:23:24 AM PST by narses
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To: Polycarp
Care to justify this?

BigMack

2 posted on 11/08/2002 7:30:56 AM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: narses; xzins; nobdysfool
Wow...that is incredible. Jesus is the way, the truth and the life....unless you have faith that you can fulfill the righteous requirements of the Law by yourself.

This is nothing short of heresy. The very fact that the Jews (and all humans) cannot uphold their end of the covenant is intended to point to their need of Christ. Unless they keep the Law perfectly and are sinless, they will not gain eternal life. Period. Only by having Christ's righteousness imputed to us can we stand before God.

3 posted on 11/08/2002 8:05:37 AM PST by Frumanchu
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To: Frumanchu
What difference one works based religion or another?
4 posted on 11/08/2002 8:16:23 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: narses
Jews do not have to convert in order to be saved . . .

All right then, neither do Buddhists, Hindus, and Muslims.

The Jews had Jesus killed. That is the ultimate rejection.

5 posted on 11/08/2002 8:17:12 AM PST by wai-ming
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I agree on the heresy bit - more typical Catholic Church liberalism - slicing and dicing of the Word to suit modern times....great advice - be in the Word, not the World...this is the most representative group espousing 'Christianity' - yet this is what the spew - unbelievable...

Its all in the word folks:

1 John 5:11 says:

'And this is the testimony. God has given us eternal life and this live is in his Son Jesus. Those who have the Son have eternal life, those who do not have the Son of God do not have eternal life'

How can Catholics dispute that? How can they arrive at their conclusion - the Truth is the Truth is the Truth...
6 posted on 11/08/2002 8:22:18 AM PST by Right in Chicago
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From the Baltimore Catechism:

Q. 509. Are all bound to belong to the Church?
A. All are bound to belong to the Church, and he who knows the Church to be the true Church and remains out of it cannot be saved.

Q. 510. Is it ever possible for one to be saved who does not know the Catholic Church to be the true Church?
A. It is possible for one to be saved who does not know the Catholic Church to be the true Church, provided that person:
(1) Has been validly baptized;
(2) Firmly believes the religion he professes and practices to be the true religion, and
(3) Dies without the guilt of mortal sin on his soul.

7 posted on 11/08/2002 8:50:06 AM PST by Rambler
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To: wai-ming
"The Jews had Jesus killed."


While it is true that the Jews (and the Gentiles) were instruments for executing Jesus, it was ultimately God the Father who killed Christ. Ref Isaiah 53:10
8 posted on 11/08/2002 8:54:58 AM PST by kingcanuteus
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To: Rambler
Oops, left this one out.

Q. 516. Why can there be only one true religion?
A. There can be only one true religion, because a thing cannot be false and true at the same time, and, therefore, all religions that contradict the teaching of the true Church must teach falsehood. If all religions in which men seek to serve God are equally good and true, why did Christ disturb the Jewish religion and the Apostles condemn heretics?

9 posted on 11/08/2002 9:07:35 AM PST by Rambler
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To: Rambler
Who to believe? Card. Kasper (who has written a book that questions the Divinity of Our Lord) or the Catechism and traditional teaching of the Church?
10 posted on 11/08/2002 9:10:12 AM PST by narses
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
I don't need to. We can all simply agree that Kasper is a heretical goat, and does not represent the teachings of Roman Catholicism.

I oppose him and his liberal protestantized agenda. He gets his agenda from the liberal wing of mainstream protestantism. It is in no way Catholic.

11 posted on 11/08/2002 9:11:18 AM PST by Polycarp
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To: narses
Who to believe?

See post #11.

12 posted on 11/08/2002 9:15:14 AM PST by Rambler
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To: Polycarp
I don't need to. We can all simply agree that Kasper is a heretical goat, and does not represent the teachings of Roman Catholicism.

Well then, you're not as bad a heretic as I though you were. :)

BigMack

13 posted on 11/08/2002 9:17:25 AM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: Polycarp
If he is elected Pope, will he remain a heretical goat?
14 posted on 11/08/2002 9:23:26 AM PST by narses
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To: Rambler
If the Pope agrees with Card. Kasper, then what?
15 posted on 11/08/2002 9:23:59 AM PST by narses
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To: narses; HDMZ; Catholicguy
If the Pope agrees with Card. Kasper, then what?

We will know that the Great Apostasy has begun.

16 posted on 11/08/2002 10:21:34 AM PST by Loyalist
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To: narses
One God. One morality. Decency toward others. Deed over creed.
17 posted on 11/08/2002 10:48:53 AM PST by onedoug
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To: narses
"This does not mean that Jews in order to be saved have to become Christians; if they follow their own conscience and believe in God's promises as they understand them in their religious tradition, they are in line with God's plan, which for us comes to historical completion in Jesus Christ," he said

Wow, believe what you want. According to this guy, there is Salvation apart from Christ.

18 posted on 11/08/2002 11:12:06 AM PST by Wrigley
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
Care to justify this?

Its okay Mack. I assure you that you do not have to become Jewish in order to be saved.

19 posted on 11/08/2002 11:14:35 AM PST by malakhi
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To: narses
If the Pope agrees with Card. Kasper, then what?

What?

20 posted on 11/08/2002 11:18:04 AM PST by Rambler
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