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"...Jews do not have to convert in order to be saved,..." Card. Kasper
Catholic News Service ^
| Nov-7-2002
| John Thavis
Posted on 11/08/2002 7:23:24 AM PST by narses
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posted on
11/08/2002 7:23:24 AM PST
by
narses
To: Polycarp
Care to justify this?
BigMack
To: narses; xzins; nobdysfool
Wow...that is incredible. Jesus is the way, the truth and the life....unless you have faith that you can fulfill the righteous requirements of the Law by yourself.
This is nothing short of heresy. The very fact that the Jews (and all humans) cannot uphold their end of the covenant is intended to point to their need of Christ. Unless they keep the Law perfectly and are sinless, they will not gain eternal life. Period. Only by having Christ's righteousness imputed to us can we stand before God.
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posted on
11/08/2002 8:05:37 AM PST
by
Frumanchu
To: Frumanchu
What difference one works based religion or another?
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posted on
11/08/2002 8:16:23 AM PST
by
RnMomof7
To: narses
Jews do not have to convert in order to be saved . . . All right then, neither do Buddhists, Hindus, and Muslims.
The Jews had Jesus killed. That is the ultimate rejection.
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posted on
11/08/2002 8:17:12 AM PST
by
wai-ming
I agree on the heresy bit - more typical Catholic Church liberalism - slicing and dicing of the Word to suit modern times....great advice - be in the Word, not the World...this is the most representative group espousing 'Christianity' - yet this is what the spew - unbelievable...
Its all in the word folks:
1 John 5:11 says:
'And this is the testimony. God has given us eternal life and this live is in his Son Jesus. Those who have the Son have eternal life, those who do not have the Son of God do not have eternal life'
How can Catholics dispute that? How can they arrive at their conclusion - the Truth is the Truth is the Truth...
From the Baltimore Catechism:
Q. 509. Are all bound to belong to the Church?
A. All are bound to belong to the Church, and he who knows the Church to be the true Church and remains out of it cannot be saved.
Q. 510. Is it ever possible for one to be saved who does not know the Catholic Church to be the true Church?
A. It is possible for one to be saved who does not know the Catholic Church to be the true Church, provided that person:
(1) Has been validly baptized;
(2) Firmly believes the religion he professes and practices to be the true religion, and
(3) Dies without the guilt of mortal sin on his soul.
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posted on
11/08/2002 8:50:06 AM PST
by
Rambler
To: wai-ming
"The Jews had Jesus killed."
While it is true that the Jews (and the Gentiles) were instruments for executing Jesus, it was ultimately God the Father who killed Christ. Ref Isaiah 53:10
To: Rambler
Oops, left this one out.
Q. 516. Why can there be only one true religion?
A. There can be only one true religion, because a thing cannot be false and true at the same time, and, therefore, all religions that contradict the teaching of the true Church must teach falsehood. If all religions in which men seek to serve God are equally good and true, why did Christ disturb the Jewish religion and the Apostles condemn heretics?
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posted on
11/08/2002 9:07:35 AM PST
by
Rambler
To: Rambler
Who to believe? Card. Kasper (who has written a book that questions the Divinity of Our Lord) or the Catechism and traditional teaching of the Church?
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posted on
11/08/2002 9:10:12 AM PST
by
narses
To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
I don't need to. We can all simply agree that Kasper is a heretical goat, and does not represent the teachings of Roman Catholicism.
I oppose him and his liberal protestantized agenda. He gets his agenda from the liberal wing of mainstream protestantism. It is in no way Catholic.
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posted on
11/08/2002 9:11:18 AM PST
by
Polycarp
To: narses
Who to believe? See post #11.
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posted on
11/08/2002 9:15:14 AM PST
by
Rambler
To: Polycarp
I don't need to. We can all simply agree that Kasper is a heretical goat, and does not represent the teachings of Roman Catholicism.Well then, you're not as bad a heretic as I though you were. :)
BigMack
To: Polycarp
If he is elected Pope, will he remain a heretical goat?
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posted on
11/08/2002 9:23:26 AM PST
by
narses
To: Rambler
If the Pope agrees with Card. Kasper, then what?
15
posted on
11/08/2002 9:23:59 AM PST
by
narses
To: narses; HDMZ; Catholicguy
If the Pope agrees with Card. Kasper, then what? We will know that the Great Apostasy has begun.
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posted on
11/08/2002 10:21:34 AM PST
by
Loyalist
To: narses
One God. One morality. Decency toward others. Deed over creed.
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posted on
11/08/2002 10:48:53 AM PST
by
onedoug
To: narses
"This does not mean that Jews in order to be saved have to become Christians; if they follow their own conscience and believe in God's promises as they understand them in their religious tradition, they are in line with God's plan, which for us comes to historical completion in Jesus Christ," he saidWow, believe what you want. According to this guy, there is Salvation apart from Christ.
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posted on
11/08/2002 11:12:06 AM PST
by
Wrigley
To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
Care to justify this? Its okay Mack. I assure you that you do not have to become Jewish in order to be saved.
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posted on
11/08/2002 11:14:35 AM PST
by
malakhi
To: narses
If the Pope agrees with Card. Kasper, then what? What?
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posted on
11/08/2002 11:18:04 AM PST
by
Rambler
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