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To: SoothingDave
I haven't a clue what you are saying. It is no longer necessary for clay to be fired?

I am not surprised you do not understand..

Dave the potter MAKES the clay vessel..HE makes it perfectly for HIS uses..it is fired to harden the already perfect vessel..if it was not perfect it would be thrown out

So your attempted analogy to purgatory is weak and not applicable (remember you said that it was fired to get rid of ther "imperfections?..if you want I will go find that post)

  Isa 43:2   When thou passest through the waters, I [will be] with thee; and through the rivers, they shall not overflow thee: when thou walkest through the fire, thou shalt not be burned; neither shall the flame kindle upon thee.   

  Isa 43:3   For I [am] the LORD thy God, the Holy One of Israel, thy Saviour:

See? Where did I say that the pot fires itself? In fact I asked you, now 4 times, how a pot being fired BY ITS MAKER is the work of the pot.

It is a "work" of man because it is something you do to be holy..you burn a bit .."sacrifice " a bit ... God will be very lucky to have you.

Dave you steal from the work of Jesus..you can do it better than he can

120 posted on 11/04/2002 7:51:10 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
I haven't a clue what you are saying. It is no longer necessary for clay to be fired?

I am not surprised you do not understand..

When one refuses to answer questions, nor talk lucidly, no it isn't.

Dave the potter MAKES the clay vessel..HE makes it perfectly for HIS uses..it is fired to harden the already perfect vessel..if it was not perfect it would be thrown out

I think you have a different conception of "perfect" than normal people. An unfired pot may indeed be "perfect," without flaw. But it is not "perfect," as in suitable for use. It is not perfect as in having completed all the steps needed.

You may wish to eat off of unfired pottery, imagining it to be perfect. I realize that pottery must be fired to be truly perfect.

So your attempted analogy to purgatory is weak and not applicable (remember you said that it was fired to get rid of ther "imperfections?..if you want I will go find that post)

The point is that clay needs to be fired before it is complete. And in that process the extra water can indeed be considered a "waste" product or an "imperfection."

See? Where did I say that the pot fires itself? In fact I asked you, now 4 times, how a pot being fired BY ITS MAKER is the work of the pot.

It is a "work" of man because it is something you do to be holy..you burn a bit .."sacrifice " a bit ... God will be very lucky to have you.

Why don't you answer the question? Five time now, I ask, and you do not answer.

I am not talking about God or Purgatory or anything. I am talking about an actual piece of clay, an actual fire and an actual maker.

Answer the basic question forst, then we can draw an analogy. You have assumed way to many facts that are not in play. Just answer the question, please.

SD

124 posted on 11/04/2002 8:04:51 AM PST by SoothingDave
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