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To: BlackElk; Polycarp; saradippity; Desdemona; sitetest; Catholicguy; Siobhan; Irisshlass
Where to begin to address you verbose and desperate screed?

First of all THE DEAD SEA SCROLLS were also found by a Muslim -- named Muhammad Adh-Dhib. The RCC Cathechism teaches the Muslims are "saved". So I don't understand your RCC squeamishness about a Muslim finding the ossuary.

2. NO ONE in the archaeology-science community has questioned the veracity of the Ossuary or it's dating methods. The box was authenticated and dated by the exact same kind of archaeological science that dates and authenticates every single thing in every museum on earth.

3. The James Ossuary VERIFIES AND SUPPORTS exactly what the Bible already says. Jesus had four brothers -- James, Joses, Jude and Simon -- and that they were sons of Joseph and Mary. This is not a discovery of some new teaching, heretofore unknown. The reason the Ossuary is so exciting is because it verifies SCRIPTURE (For you Catholics, "Scripture" is just a big word meaning "The Bible")

You catholics have been caught lying to the World, yet again. The reason for this is because of your disastrous reliance on N.O.T. V.I.A. D.I.O.S. (Non-truth Of The Vatican's Incorrect And Debunked Interpretation Of Scripture.)

Disputing the authenticity of the Ossuary is a losing proposition. Y'all should give the "Brady Bunch Scenario" another try. ;-)

79 posted on 10/28/2002 7:15:32 PM PST by berned
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To: berned
God bless you anyway.
81 posted on 10/28/2002 8:08:16 PM PST by Siobhan
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To: berned
You might begin by admitting that your fantasy of the ossuary box or lid being "slam-dunk evidence" is baloney. It is precisely the sort of "evidence" that for the reasons stated in my last post to you would never be admitted into evidence by any court of law.

Muslims may find whatever they may. The religion of the finder is not the issue. The existence of the finder is along with all the rest of the curious inscrutable mystery about the source of the alleged artifact. H. L. Mencken should only be alive to write about the purposeful gullibility of the likes of you.

You seem to claim to be more of an expert on the Catholic Catechism than I, an internet street fighter, may be, and I will leave it to others more learned than I to respond as to whether a Muslim may be saved. My suspicion is that more people by far are saved than is imagined by the usual YOPIOS simplistic readings of Scripture.

We Catholics are quite aware of what Scripture is since after all, we gave it to your predecessors in heresy about five hundred years ago and then they passed it to you after truncating those books that contained the truths with which the reformers disagreed. The corruption of the meaning of Scripture according to YOPIOS and TOPIOS of other reformed Christians (each in his or her own favorite flavor of the week) continues apace with each passing year You are stuck relying on your own poor powers of understanding since you are bound by the traditions of reformed men to reject the pope provided for you to give authoritative explication and the accumulated wisdom of twenty centuries effort by those more learned and saintly than thee or me which is to be found in the Teaching Magisterium (which you reject) of Christ's own Church (which you also reject and which rejection defines you.)

Of what possible relevance are the Dead Sea Scrolls?

No one or virtually no one in the "archaeology-science community" has seen or had access to the empty magical mystery box of the desert sands. Thus, it comes as no surprise that scientists will not question the "veracity" (no less) of the MMBODS. They likewise have expressed no questions as to the second and third suns in our solar system (since they do not exist) or as to the mating habits of the mugwump since neither of those look worthy of attention either.

DO you believe in dinosaurs? IS the world roughly and merely 6,000 years old as fantasized by the hilarious buffoon and computer of the cumulative years of the Genesis begats and "Bible scholar" Bishop Usher of the imposed Anglican "Church of Ireland"? If so, please refrain from using the word "science" to support the fantasies emanating not from Scripture but from YOPIOS.

Scholar in Aramaic that you must be to make the claims you make as to that troublesome word for "brother", please prove it by giving us your Aramaic translation of: "The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog." You may substitute hyena for fox in case Aramaic lacks a word for fox.

Perhaps you can explain how your dependence on the translation skills and integrity of others is not reliance on the traditions of (reformed) men.

You really ought to study on the distinction between desperation and sarcastic derision.

88 posted on 10/29/2002 1:39:11 AM PST by BlackElk
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To: berned; BlackElk
Disputing the authenticity of the Ossuary is a losing proposition.

Berned, you obviously do not comprehend that your slam dunk drivel has been destroyed on the basis of true scholarship and intellectual rigor.

But that is not surprising at all.

Well done, Black Elk.

92 posted on 10/29/2002 6:31:21 AM PST by Polycarp
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To: berned
3. The James Ossuary VERIFIES AND SUPPORTS exactly what the Bible already says. Jesus had four brothers -- James, Joses, Jude and Simon -- and that they were sons of Joseph and Mary. This is not a discovery of some new teaching, heretofore unknown. The reason the Ossuary is so exciting is because it verifies SCRIPTURE (For you Catholics, "Scripture" is just a big word meaning "The Bible")

Still engaging in your strongest character trait Berned, lying. Time for you to begin attending your Liars Anonymous meetings again. See what happens when you get lazy. The Bible says no such thing as you claim, simpleton. Zebedee and Salome begot James and John, Cleophas(Alphaeus) and Mary(the other Mary of Matthew 27:56,61, 28:1, John 19:25) begot James(the less), Jo'ses and Jude, The Holy Spirit and the Blessed Virgin Mary begot Jesus Christ. Simon was a Canaanite, Mark 3:18 and was related to neither Joseph or the Blessed Virgin Mary. Keep looking for answers in that edited, abridged, corrupted version you use of the original book produced by the Catholic Church in 405 AD.

Your particular judgment will be interesting.

105 posted on 10/29/2002 8:45:23 AM PST by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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