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thank you for the ping i think you must be busy, as i see you on many threads!

I usually don't post this much. But it is raining here and cold, so I can't get outside. I am an outdoor person. Do alot of horseback riding and yard/pasture work. So in the winter I am on here more especially when there is persipitation.

mostly youre involved in discusions re: errors in the rcc.

I have a speical motive for learning and trying to refute catholic teachings. My whole family is catholic. I was born and raised catholic and spent 20 yrs as a catholic. I would like to find a way to get thru to catholics so I could talk to my family. They refuse to even discuss religion though.

THE WORD is vulgate to the rcc, and KJV (or those derived from it) to the protestant.

I agree. But I did not really post this thread to teach catholics, although it would be interesting to see their take on it, mostly just to discuss it and get others opinion on the different intrepretations of the passages used here. Do you agree with them? or not?

is it ok to ask which scripture is being used?

It is OK to ask anything:)

I am not sure what scripture you mean. Or if you mean version I use a KJV.

Becky

i agree with most of it, and use the kjv for discussion rain/cold here too! bet you know about that cool guy who is the REAL "horse-whisperer" (i would like to have a pacofino someday, but must content myself with three border collies!) given my nic here, you should know i DO agree with by knowing the Word, you will be able to discern that which is false. and "You shall not add to the word which I am commanding, nor take away from it, that you may keep the commandment of the Lord... You shall follow the Lord your God and fear Him, and you shall keep his commandments, listen to His voice, serve Him, and cling to Him." Deuteronomy 4:2; 13:4 as to I have a speical motive for learning and trying to refute catholic teachings. My whole family is catholic. I was born and raised catholic and spent 20 yrs as a catholic. I would like to find a way to get thru to catholics so I could talk to my family. They refuse to even discuss religion though. i find it quite interesting that there are ANY catholics willing to discuss religion.....fr really IS a special place! the ones who post must be theologians, or priests, im guessing of course, but my experience is that they know the catechism better than the(ir) bible.... if its true that "the just shall live by faith", then having loved ones who refuse to see their error puts you to a trying test of faith, im sure. i think there's some consolation in the idea that we will not be judged because we truly believed a lie but because we rejected the truth....i have a strong sense that you are well aware of this, and see your witness to your family as an awesome responsibility, and that your heart aches for them since we all see thru a glass darkly, we're all "at risk" so to speak....remember, peter said that even the RIGHTEOUS shall scarcely be saved!