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To: Grig; P-Marlowe; Wrigley; RnMomof7; computerjunkie; JMJ333; Polycarp
***I said before, if you reject a prophet of God, you have rejected God.***

True, but you presuppose Joseph Smith and Brigham Young are true prophets, AND that is the issue! Furthermore, P-Marlow and I have presented copious reasons for the conclusion that these two are false prophets.

The Freeper LDS folk do not want to engage P-M in a reasoned discission of whether Joseph Smith is a true prophet or a false prophet. Or are you NOW willing to do so?

Instead, you claim Smith to be a true prophet based upon a burning bosom. And tell others if they were really sincere and really prayed about it God would confirm it. A convenient apporach to avoid any sober analysis of Joseph Smith's history and theology.

Joe Smith is no Moses. His homemade religion is closer to Micah in Judges 17&18!
108 posted on 10/05/2002 8:56:53 PM PDT by drstevej
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To: drstevej
"True, but you presuppose Joseph Smith and Brigham Young are true prophets,"

You overlook that BY, who made those statements, ALSO presuppose Joseph Smith is a true prophet, so they should be looked at in that light.

"The Freeper LDS folk do not want to engage P-M in a reasoned discission of whether Joseph Smith is a true prophet or a false prophet. Or are you NOW willing to do so? "

Like you, P-M has earned my distrust with his past behaviour, and so I don't trust him to stick to 'reasoned discussion' and I suspect his motives. Any person who wants to know if Jospeh was a true prophet or not can find that out for themselves from God. Those who want an excuse to reject him can find many that Satan has been happy to manufacture.

"Instead, you claim Smith to be a true prophet based upon a burning bosom."

No, it's based on the witness of the Holy Ghost, personal revelation. Your attempt to downplay it as some kind of heartburn only makes it look like you yourself have not had the Holy Ghost witness anything to you.

"A convenient apporach to avoid any sober analysis of Joseph Smith's history and theology. "

I'm happy to engage in sober analysis of Joseph Smith's history and theology with any sincere person. You and P-M have clearly shown that you are not in that category.
115 posted on 10/05/2002 9:51:15 PM PDT by Grig
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