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To: RnMomof7; ponyespresso; JesseShurun
No pony they are not seeking after the God of Abraham , Issac and Jacob..they are not seeking after the one true God

What did Paul mean when he said

When Gentiles who have not the law do by nature what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law.
They show that what the law requires is written on their hearts, while their conscience also bears witness and their conflicting thoughts accuse or perhaps excuse them (Romans 2:14-15)

539 posted on 10/01/2002 10:17:34 PM PDT by malakhi
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To: angelo; RnMomof7; JesseShurun
RnMomof7: No pony they are not seeking after the God of Abraham , Issac and Jacob..they are not seeking after the one true God

angelo: What did Paul mean when he said

When Gentiles who have not the law do by nature what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law. They show that what the law requires is written on their hearts, while their conscience also bears witness and their conflicting thoughts accuse or perhaps excuse them (Romans 2:14-15)

Exactly. Everybody on Earth is given two lights of knowledge, the light of creation (Romans 1:21) and the light of conscience.(Romans 2:14, 15). If we were not given those two lights then I would agree on RnMomof7's usage of that particular passage in the sense that she is using it. But, in fact, all of humanity is given those lights; my point is that most who are given light either misunderstand it or corrupt it (even many Christians, if I can steer this back to the original article about Barna's research.)

However, like I said before, we all have a God sized hole in us and humanity has historically looked outward (upward) to find meaning and a way of filling that hole. They get it wrong (contrary to what Jesse thinks he reads in my posts) but there is a search nonetheless.

And this is where we can actually get excited about evangelism! Because the Truth has been revealed to us, we have a opportunity to share the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob with those who are searching (which, contrary to RnMomof7's misreading of Scripture, EVERYONE is searching!)

549 posted on 10/02/2002 3:05:44 AM PDT by ponyespresso
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To: angelo
When Gentiles who have not the law do by nature what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law.
They show that what the law requires is written on their hearts, while their conscience also bears witness and their conflicting thoughts accuse or perhaps excuse them (Romans 2:14-15)

What he meant is they are cooked Ange..cause if they have ever broken one law they are unclean and not worthy to stand in the presence of Holy God..they are judged by the law they choose..the law of the Jews or the law of they conscience. Neithor law can ever be kept perfectly . That is why we need to be clothed in the righteousnes of Christ to enter into Gods presence. That is why Jesus came..that is why we need a Saviour
568 posted on 10/02/2002 6:39:43 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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