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We're talking about romans 4, Rn, so we're talking about the same believing that paul is talking about.

[PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain]

I have a big God, a sovereign God, but I am neither Calvinist nor Arminian. The Bible says God would have all men be saved. I believe that. The Bible says man can say no to God. As amazing as this seems to me, I believe it. If God wants to give man the potential to resist Him and to reject Him and to say no to Him, who am I to say this detracts from His sovereignty or makes Him any less Almighty God? It does not detract from His sovereign power one iota.

BigMack