[PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain]

The order IS important because it is about the sovereignity of God

IF God wanted too, do you think He could have given us freewill to choose? Do you think that if He gave everyone free choice He could have foreknew who would accept and who would reject, then use that knowledge to forward His plans? Would that be possible for a sovereign God?

Becky

[RnMomof7]

IF God wanted too, do you think He could have given us freewill to choose? Do you think that if He gave everyone free choice He could have foreknew who would accept and who would reject, then use that knowledge to forward His plans? Would that be possible for a sovereign God?

So then these are not Gods plans . God waited to see how man would act and how man would choose THEN he made HIS plans? Who is God in this ?

Becky every man does have free will...but man will never will to choose God..Read Romans

[malakhi]

IF God wanted too, do you think He could have given us freewill to choose? Do you think that if He gave everyone free choice He could have foreknew who would accept and who would reject, then use that knowledge to forward His plans? Would that be possible for a sovereign God?

Oooooooooh, good question, Becky! If God is absolutely sovereign, as the Calvinists, say, then of course he would have the power and authority to do precisely what you say. To say otherwise would be to undermine the claim of His absolute sovereignty.

[CCWoody]

IF God wanted too, do you think He could have given us freewill to choose? Do you think that if He gave everyone free choice He could have foreknew who would accept and who would reject, then use that knowledge to forward His plans? Would that be possible for a sovereign God?

God did give everyone a free choice. We all chose unwisely.

• The Lord looks down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there are any who understand, who seek God. They have all turned aside, they have together become corrupt; there is none who does good, no not one.

Nevertheless, for the sake of His name and His glory, He has acted for our benefit and chosen to redeem for Himself a number known only to Him from every nation and tribe and tongue and people.

Were God to leave a man to wallow in his God hating sin and hostility, He would only be giving that man what he truly desires in the insanity of his heart. Therefore, to those who never see the glorious beauty and regenerating presence of the Grace Giver, they have no right to complain. They want nothing to do with the Lord.

The problem that you and xzins and all who truly don't believe that man is dead in sins have is to be able to explain how from a heart abundant in insanity toward the Lord that man can produce the faith which is accounted for righteousness and how such generated faith is by grace and not by man:

• Ecc 9:3 Truly the hearts of the sons of men are full of evil; madness in in their hearts while they live and after that they go to the dead.
• Mat 12:34 How can you, being evil, speak good things? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. A good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth good things and an evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth evil things.

Of course, I believe as the Lord has said that you must make the tree good and then the fruit will be good.