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To: RochesterFan; xzins; winstonchurchill; Revelation 911; RnMomof7; The Grammarian
Neither of us can say for certain because the Scriptures do not give us a definitive answer. However, I would not be surpried if he were. He reponded positively to all the revelation he had, exhibiting a willingness to take God at His word. Recall that from God's perspective, Christ is the Lamb slain before the foundation of the world. The Father can apply the merits of and righteousness from that sacrifice to whomsoever He pleases. He is the definition of righteousness, justice, love, and mercy. I trust him to make a merciful and just decision.

To be consistent, you would have to maintain that he was saved (although nothing is said that he was), because if he wasn't saved, the notion that a man has to be regenerated before God can reach him falls by the wayside.

I agree with your assessment of the attributes of both the Father and the Son, and the decision they would make is to reach all men so every man has a choice to make and not have had that choice made by God for him in a Eternal Decree. (Rom.1, Ps.19, 1Tim.2:4, 2Pet.3:9)

1,091 posted on 10/07/2002 11:35:14 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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To: fortheDeclaration
I agree with your assessment of the attributes of both the Father and the Son, and the decision they would make is to reach all men so every man has a choice to make and not have had that choice made by God for him in a Eternal Decree. (Rom.1, Ps.19, 1Tim.2:4, 2Pet.3:9)

Your second clause is not consistent with Rom 9:8-26. Custance, White, and others have shown convincingly that the use of pas in 1 Ti 2:1 and 4 is consistent with "all classes" or "all types" of men. As for 2 Pet 3:9, one must ask "all what?". The context there shows that the verse is referring to believers.

There are two many verses like Prov 19:21 and Prov 20:24 and John 6:44-45 for me to believe that the elect can resist the call of God. And those who are not sheep do not come because they are not sheep. God is just in His dealings with them.

I'm sure neither of these arguments comes as a surprise to you...

1,092 posted on 10/07/2002 3:27:13 PM PDT by RochesterFan
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To: fortheDeclaration
My proof reading in 1091 missed "two many", should have been "too many".
1,093 posted on 10/07/2002 3:29:01 PM PDT by RochesterFan
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