[RnMomof7]

Their philosophy seems to be "We don't care if using honey to catch flies is more successful than using vinegar, using the vinegar is much more fun."

I think that most of us are grace folks ...so we do not believe that any of us convert anyone...God does

Beside don't you think it is manipulative and sinful to be "nice" for the express purpose to convert some one? Isn't manipulation a violation of free will?

[CubicleGuy]

Beside don't you think it is manipulative and sinful to be "nice" for the express purpose to convert some one?

So when Christ urged us to "love one another", He was being manipulative?