[Catholicguy]

Even Uncle Jo claims that this was a MERELY PASTORAL COUNCIL. You can hardly blame Fr Blet for thinking likewise.

<> You know, when I hear it was "Merely Pastoral" I can almost hear, "N'yeah, N'Yeah, N'Yeah, N'Yeah, N'Yeah, we don't gotta obey ...cause it was only Pastoral"

It is as if we need be sheep ONLY when our Pastors are guiding us with Dogmatic Crosiers and, absent that, we are but Lone Traditional Wolves free to not only reject the Doctrines of an Ecumenical Council but anything else, including the normative Mass, if we don't feel like accepting it because "it was merely pastoral."

And when our protestant brethren on there threads see us acting like this, what do we tell them when they accurately say, "See, you guys are no different than us."

[Loyalist]

And what do you tell the Protestant brethren, when they see that you confuse infallibility with impeccability?

When legitimately concerned Catholics are denounced as heretics and schismatics for asking questions in good faith?

Such actions only reinforce the most ill-informed misconceptions of obedience of Papal authority as submission to a tyrant, not following a shepherd.