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To: Bud McDuell
<> Bud, careful of projection. I don't hate any mass. That is a characteristic of you and your ilk. Remember, it was ultima that compared the Pauline Rite to a Black Mass. You didn't correct him, did you? Instead, you agreed with him, right?

I used to drive 90 miles one way to the Indult mass in Miami. One doesn't do that to attend a Liturgy one hates. It is clear who is engaged in hate here, Bud.<>

85 posted on 09/25/2002 12:50:48 PM PDT by Catholicguy
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To: Catholicguy
[A]ll those teachings - on faith and morals - presented as true or at least as sure, even if they have not been defined with a solemn judgment or proposed as definitive by the ordinary and universal Magisterium. Such teachings are, however, an authentic expression of the ordinary Magisterium of the Roman Pontiff or of the College of Bishops and therefore require religious submission of will and intellect. They are set forth in order to arrive at a deeper understanding of revelation, to recall the conformity of a teaching with the truths of faith, or lastly to warn against ideas incompatible with these truths or against dangerous opinions that can lead to error.

A proposition contrary to these doctrines can be qualified as erroneous or, in the case of teachings of the prudential order, as rash or dangerous and therefore "tuto doceri non potest". (Cardinal Rzatzinger Commentary of Professio Fidei)

<. It is a characteristic of those on the losing end of an arguement that they seek to divert attention the issue at hand.

The issue a thand is there is NO warrant for a Catholic to reject parts or whole of an Ecumenical Council.

It is characteristic of schsimatics to get bogged down in minituae, accidents, side issues, and they often miss the substantial forest of Unity for the green sapling sprouting peripheral leaves.

As in every other instance, the schismatics and those that succor them are left without an arguement.<>

87 posted on 09/25/2002 1:00:46 PM PDT by Catholicguy
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To: Catholicguy; Bud McDuell; ultima ratio; Tantumergo; Loyalist
I don't hate any mass.

Why, then, do you wish that the next Pope abolishes the Indult?

I used to drive 90 miles one way to the Indult mass in Miami.

Is that the period when you were flirting with schism?

One doesn't do that to attend a Liturgy one hates.

Do you still attend this liturgy, and if not why not?

90 posted on 09/25/2002 6:30:26 PM PDT by Land of the Irish
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