[Catholicguy]

<>Well, check back on the Pauline Rite after a few centuries :)

The New Rite that was created by a Committee following Trent was right for the 16th Century and the New Rite created by a Committee after Vatican Two is right for the 21st Century and beyond.<>

[maryz]

the New Rite created by a Committee after Vatican Two is right for the 21st Century

When I was in graduate school, a bunch of us got together to go over to Cambridge for our French and German reading exams. We had lunch together, and naturally the conversation turned to coursework. One guy in my Chaucer class said he loved modern, but he really felt Chaucer was like an alien -- he couldn't really make head nor tail of him. I had an equal but opposite reaction -- I felt perfectly at home with Chaucer, but the modern novel course I actually had to teach a discussion section of was to me full of ugly and alien and incomprehensible "ideas" -- if that's exactly the word.

With Terence I can say "Nothing human is alien to me," only with the qualifier "as long as it's not literature after the 18th century. Go ahead, consign me to the dustbin of history!

[Snuffington]

I'm curious. Have your ever read "Reform of the Roman Liturgy" by Msgr. Klaus Gamber (it has an introduction by Cardinal Ratzinger, in case you're worried it's schismatic). If not you might want to look into it. Lots of information about the Novus Ordo, how it was created, what came before, and how faithful the reformers were to what Vatican II called for.

Incidentally, Gamber does not reject the Novus Ordo. He simply points to problems in the way it was created, and examines the history of how it came about.

In any case it will give you some insight into the mind of those who feel the Novus Ordo reform was not the same thing as the Tridentine reform.

[ninenot]

There you go again, CG--you are either misinformed or flat-out lying about Trent.