[ninenot]

Sorry, you are wrong in your definition of V.II as "infallible." The Fathers of the Council defined it as "pastoral."

In all areas where the Council's teachings were in line with the Magisterium, the teachings are infallible. In areas where they are not, they are NOT.

Liturgical regulation, by the way, is NOT a matter of infallibility, OR the Quo Primum would still be standing, along with the UNMODIFIED Mass of Trent.

Do you see that you have an internal contradiction here?

[Catholicguy]

Sorry, you are wrong in your definition of V.II as "infallible." The Fathers of the Council defined it as "pastoral."

<> Sorry, you are worng. I have been beating my head against the Wailing Stone Walls of the Traditionalist Fortress trying to get this point across and even along The Watchtower the Guards of that ever decreasingly-populated stronghold are now admitting that ALL Ecumenical Councils ARE Infallible.

Have them drop you a lifeline.<>