[RnMomof7]

We agree...BUT..I suppose you could refuse such a relationship

If you could your will would be stronger than His grace..then you would be God

The bottom line is for most of us ..it never occurred to us to refuse..because bring in His presence and His grace made us desire him more than anything...that is why He is God:>)

[Quix]

Oh, I have seen some who have tasted, been realtively close. . . and then turn . . . That's why that Scripture about it being impossible for such who have once tasted . . . to be ultimately saved----is such a frighteningly sobering one.

If there is NO free will, there is NO love and NO responsibility.

Without an authentic freedom to choose non-love, Love is nonexistent.

God obviously knows that. I'm surprised you don't.

[Quix]

It doesn't have anything to do with an individual's will being stronger than Grace at all.

Grace is a free gift--though we could say it cost The Father His Son and the Son His life.

God has plenty of power and whatever else He needed to set it up such that a gift could be refused without diminishing God's potency one subatomic particle's worth. If you think God was incapable of setting things up that way, I think your God is too small.