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To: White Mountain; drstevej; Wrigley; RnMomof7; restornu; CubicleGuy; computerjunkie; CCWoody; All
but any lawyering skills that one might have can be used in defense of truth, or they can be used to attack it.

WM, I am frankly disappointed in your attacks on me. They are sooooo petty. You pretend to be the guradian of TRUTH when in fact you spend most of your time on these threads doing nothing more than obfuscating the truth and hiding the lies that your own Church Leaders have told over the last 170 years.

Don't pretend that you have ever taken the high road because you haven't. If anyone around here has behaved like a corrupt criminal defense lawyer it is YOU!

You have had several threads yanked. Why? Because the TRUTH of the LDS Church has been exposed and to you the TRUTH is that last thing that you want anyone who hasn't sworn a blood oath to the Mormon god to know about. You hide the truth at every turn and rather than try to refute the criticisms of the LDS Church, you pretend to be pious and accuse those of us who point out the errors and hypocrisy of your leaders of being anti-Mormon bigots.

We are not anti-mormons. We are defenders of the truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ against those who would pervert it. And the LDS doctrines are nothing more than a blatant perversion of the true Gospel of Jesus Christ.

I have asked you dozens of times to refute anything that I have said. You haven't even tried. Why? I believe it is because you have no ammunition in your arsenal to refute anything I have said.

Mormonism is paganism with a perverted Christian dictionary. I honestly believe that. If you don't believe it yourself, then tell me where I am wrong. Don't hide the evidence like a squirilly slimy criminal defense lawyer who knows his client is guilty. Let the evidence come out. But like in any trial the more evidence that is introduced, the more likely it is that the truth will come out in the end.

I will repeat it. If ANYONE has acted like a slimy criminal defense lawyer around here it has been you. So get off your high horse and either debate me point by point, or quit whining about how evil I am.

Your only hope in this case is that you will continue to gather in an ignorant jury pool. Well there are OJ jurors out there. There are people who refuse to be persuaded by the evidence. Those people have a "gut" feeling about a case from the beginning and refuse to be persuaded regardless of the mountain of evidence that contradicts their "gut feeling". That is why you guys always fall back on your burning bosom experience. It is your shelter from the truth. Well get used to that burning feeling. You may have it for an eternity.

44 posted on 09/18/2002 5:23:47 AM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: connectthedots; P-Marlowe; White Mountain; Wrigley; RnMomof7; restornu; CubicleGuy; ...
CTD your assessment below has been demonstrated to be right on target:

Any Mormon, at FreeRepublic or elsewhere, that would dare take up the challenge of debating P-Marlowe on the truth or falsity of Mormonism needs to keep the following in mind:

1. P-Marlowe is a former Mormon who is very knowledgeable on both the history and doctrines of the Mormon church.

2. He answers all questions asked; in detail, with supporting citations to the historical record. He also demands that his opponent do the same.

3. He is a lawyer, and based on his skills in logical think as demonstrated on these threads, probably a formidable foe in a courtroom at either trial or on appeal. I would guess that he drafts legal briefs that are far superior than those of his opponents.

4. He is likely extremely intelligent and may have what is called a random-analytical thinking style. It appears he is able to assimilate great quanties of information and readily distill the data, and then focus on the important stuff.

5. And finally, he has what debaters and lawyers prefer above all else. He has a great set of facts!

46 posted on 09/18/2002 6:12:13 AM PDT by drstevej
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To: P-Marlowe; drstevej; Some hope remaining.; Logophile
Your #44: WM, I am frankly disappointed in your attacks on me. ... If ANYONE has acted like a slimy criminal defense lawyer around here it has been you. So get off your high horse and either debate me point by point, or quit whining ...

Calm down, Marlowe, take several deep breaths, and read my post (#39) again.

The aggressive attacker always accuses his intended victim of the things he himself is doing. It shows the basic dishonesty inherent in being willing to be an aggressive attacker.

>> ... about how evil I am.

Have I ever said that? No, I haven't.

Are you trying to tell us something? Is it "true confession" time? 8-)

But I have expressed great irritation with your conduct, your willingness to be an aggressive attacker, basher and trasher, quite the opposite of the "cordial discussion" you profess to be willing to engage in. We haven't seen any sign of it yet. When will we ever see it? I have pretty much lost hope.

Your #61 to Shr: I am a living example that these types of discussions accomplish miracles. I ... became a "born again" Christian.

Here is your objective, which has been plain enough all along: not discussion, but recruiting people to your point of view while bad-mouthing our point of view, as all may see in your post.

Can you honestly say you are acting like a born-again Christian? How do you expect people to believe that the discussion will somehow become cordial on your part once someone starts to discuss things with you? You and Steve are acting like wolves in sheep's clothing (as anyone can see from looking at the various threads Steve has set up for "discussion" with "ground rules"):

Little Red Riding Hood: "Why, Grandma, what big teeth you have!"

The Big Bad Wolf: "The better to eat you with, my dear!"

63 posted on 09/19/2002 2:44:12 AM PDT by White Mountain
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