[ksen]

My point was that the apostle's language argues that they were not embodied.

Right, but by the end of verse 4 they were embodied because of their participation in the first resurrection. ;^)

[the_doc]

Well, you really do resort to complicated explanations.

I prefer what I would dare to call an "Occam's Razor approach" (which approach also excuses me from having to read things into John 5:28-29!).