[irishtenor]

I have never, I repeat, NEVER heard a liberal of any religious stripe hold to an authentic Amil position. As to the word refute: You have refuted many thing on here, but have never proven anything.

[xzins]

There is a distinction between "refute" and "irrefutable." Refute can sometimes mean "to argue a point." However, to say something is "irrefutable" is to highlight "refute's" primary definition which is "to prove." Something can be "irrefutable" meaning "not able to be disproven."

There are very few things in life which are "unarguable." Even a lousy argument is an argument. Therefore, the secondary meaning of "refute" (to argue) really doesn't apply to the word "irrefutable."