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To: theAmbassador
Your #2565 to M-PI: And we shall go forth and look upon the corpses of the men who have transgressed against Him. For their worm does not die, and their fire is not quenched. They shall be an abhorrence to us. Will we not be moved to a greater sense of awareness of just how wonderful the unmerited grace of God really is when we see this? Shall we not rejoice to know that we are not the objects of God fierce wrath? Shall we not fall down and give God glory through praise and worship? Shall we not feel awe and wonder to simply know that the only difference between us and the reprobate is the free grace of God that He has in His sovereignty bestowed?

But maybe your hope is tragically misplaced, maybe your conversion is spurious, as you guys love to claim regarding any who disagree with you. As you guys say, were that to be unhappily the case, you would only get what you deserve.

You guys take too many pages from the Pharisees' playbook:

Luke 18:11,13,14
11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.
13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.

The difference between the faithful and the reprobate is that the faithful obey the Gospel -- faith in the Lord Jesus Christ, sincere repentance, baptism for the remission of sins, keeping the commandments, enduring in faith to the end, building Christlike character, living a life of service, doing what Jesus tells us to do, as the prophets teach us in the Scriptures.

Ephesians 2:8
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Romans 10:16
16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?

2 Thessalonians 1:8
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:

1 Peter 4:17
17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?

The Lord gives us all the ability to repent, and offers His eternal opportunities to all, on condition of obedience to His Gospel: faith in Christ, repentance, etc.

God bless you!

2,695 posted on 10/24/2002 9:59:34 AM PDT by White Mountain
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To: White Mountain; theAmbassador; the_doc; Jean Chauvin; CCWoody; All
"You guys take too many pages from the Pharisees' playbook"

You have no idea how funny it is to see legalists (that reject the sovereignty of God and think they can earn their salvation), write such words.

Are you a DemocRAT?

They are experts at accusing others of the very things they are doing.

Unfortunately, superficial ?thinkers? far out number the discerning / those capable of critical thought, so this gives you confidence in your ability to persuede. LOL

2,697 posted on 10/24/2002 10:17:39 AM PDT by Matchett-PI
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To: White Mountain; theAmbassador; drstevej; Wrigley; rdb3; Jean Chauvin
You guys take too many pages from the Pharisees' playbook:

Why don't we let the Calvinists here decide if theAmbassador's comment is more like a Pharisee or a Publican.

BTW, it is rude to not introduce yourself when attacking someone. Why don't you tell him that you are a Mormon bishop?
2,698 posted on 10/24/2002 10:30:19 AM PDT by CCWoody
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To: White Mountain
Ephesians 2:8

8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God

Its really too bad that you Mormons really don't believe that. Your salvation is based on works.

2,703 posted on 10/24/2002 1:03:27 PM PDT by Wrigley
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