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To: xzins; CCWoody; OrthodoxPresbyterian; jude24; Wrigley; fortheDeclaration; editor-surveyor; ...
We'll let this question have some peer review by the eschatological inquiry gang. Ping some others and see their response.

QUESTION:
If the kingdom has already come, is His will now being done on earth as it is now being done in Heaven? -- Matthew 6:10



2,534 posted on 10/23/2002 6:00:54 AM PDT by drstevej
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ping to 2534.
2,535 posted on 10/23/2002 6:10:11 AM PDT by drstevej
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/749331/posts?page=2534#2534

Ping to the above on Spurgeon's Millennium....also to #2532. DrSteveJ has a question
2,536 posted on 10/23/2002 6:28:48 AM PDT by xzins
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To: drstevej
No, and no.

Dan

2,538 posted on 10/23/2002 6:38:32 AM PDT by BibChr
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To: drstevej; CCWoody; the_doc; OrthodoxPresbyterian; RnMomof7; theAmbassador
According to the Pre-Mil's, there ~WILL~ be rebellion, sin and the like during the 1000 millennial kingdom as well.

In other words, during the time when you guys say the Kingdom will be here, "His will [ in reality, is not] done on earth as it is now being done in Heaven". Goodness, even ftd says that there will be some who do not obey.

What is your point?

Jean

2,539 posted on 10/23/2002 6:47:37 AM PDT by Jean Chauvin
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To: drstevej
Why aren't all Christians united as Christ asked? Is Christ divided?

To answer your question, no, His will is not done on earth as in heaven, and not even the mellenialists believe that will be the case in the mellenium, at least not as far as I have read in mellenial literature.

In heaven, God's will isn't imposed on unwilling angels.

2,542 posted on 10/23/2002 6:57:41 AM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: drstevej; Jean Chauvin; Matchett-PI; RnMomof7; jude24
QUESTION:
If the kingdom has already come, is His will now being done on earth as it is now being done in Heaven? -- Matthew 6:10

ANSWER:
For the scripture says to Pharaoh, "Even for this same purpose I have raised you up, that I might show My power in you, and that My name might be declared in all the earth." Therefore He has mercy on whom He wills, and whom He wills He hardens. You will say to me then, "Why does He still find fault? For who has resisted His will?"

BTW, I will concede that after the Lord returns that we who will inherit that kingdom will perform His will perfectly for we will all be perfect replicas of God, speaking and acting with the FULL authority of our Father. When we speak, it will be as if the Father speaks. This ~IS~ Amillennialism.

However, Premillennialism has a problem. It is this little Gog and Magog thing where the perfect will of the Father will not be done. There is this whole sea of pretenders in the Lord's paradise who will outwardly show all the signs of conversion except that they will ~NOT~ have glorified bodies and inwardly will despise the Lord's statues. So, in this Premillennial paradise I will weep for as the Psalter says: "because Thy statutes are despised, with overwhelming grief I weep."

It is just one of the many reasons why I am not excited about the idea that I might be wrong.
2,545 posted on 10/23/2002 7:11:37 AM PDT by theAmbassador
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To: drstevej
QUESTION: If the kingdom has already come, is His will now being done on earth as it is now being done in Heaven? -- Matthew 6:10

As a Calvinist I say yes..His will is always done..

2,574 posted on 10/23/2002 9:32:31 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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Just that you would ask a question like this causes me to wonder what kind of church you are associated with. Surely not one that is spiritual and considers the command to be holy as God is holy, of any importance. As a disciple of Christ's, doing His will, should be your main focus. Every single day a disciple should pray constantly to do the Father's will. Christ taught that in the disciple's prayer. If you don't know this and/or don't do this, you are not in the Kingdom and so your wait, and your hope, is in vain.
2,611 posted on 10/23/2002 12:57:37 PM PDT by JesseShurun
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To: drstevej; xzins
If the kingdom has already come, is His will now being done on earth as it is now being done in Heaven? -- Matthew 6:10

Well, dr. according to the more 'extreme' Calvinists it is, since they believe God has directly willed everything (good and bad) not allowing for a permissive will (as I believe you do)

2,618 posted on 10/23/2002 1:15:44 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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