[aardvark1]

It strikes me as I look through the responses to your post that there are no quotes from Scripture. It may be entertaining to banter this question around on using our logic, but the basis of the arguments must be firmly established in the revealed word of God.

The book of Job can help to clarify God's perspective on the activities of our world. Also, the book of Daniel demonstrates God's activity in history including the destruction of man's kingdoms which were probably seen as "bad" things by those living at that time.

[RnMomof7]

I agree...I see lots of man made doctrine and "beliefs " ( and one misused scripture:>) It is best to use Gods word...it is profitible for doctrine.,.One of my favorites on this topic

  
  Eph 1:3   Blessed [be] the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly [places] in Christ:
  
  Eph 1:4   According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
  
  Eph 1:5   Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
  
  Eph 1:6   To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.
  
  Eph 1:7   In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;
  
  Eph 1:8   Wherein he hath abounded toward us in all wisdom and prudence;
  
  Eph 1:9   Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself:
  
  Eph 1:10   That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; [even] in him:
  
  Eph 1:11   In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will: