[ultima ratio]

Nope. The essential elements are present at a Black Mass--but it is still an abomination. Non-essentials matter.

[Theresa]

"Non-essentials matter."

"In essentials, unity, in doubtful matters, liberty; in all things charity." Pope John XXIII, Ad Petri Cathedram and popularly attributed to St. Augustine

[Catholicguy]

TCR ""Let the ultra-traditionalist critics prefer this or that kind of architecture, this or that age or style of song, but so long as the essential elements of the Catholic Mass remain in place, it is a matter of taste, not orthodoxy. "

Theresa "Yup."

Ultima "Nope. The essential elements are present at a Black Mass--but it is still an abomination. Non-essentials matter."

<>LOL still at it, huh? Comparing this to a Black Mass....You have compared the normative mass to a black mass previously. Is there any Liturgy of the Mass, after the close of the 16th Century, that you consider not a Black Mass?<>