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To: RnMomof7
The things God does are irrelevant?

Yep God will do as God will do...He does not need to punch my time clock:>)

Be sure to use this tripe during your particular judgment. Particularly the "God is irrelevant" part.

If the Saints are not omnipresent How can they be worshiping God (as scripture tells us )AND hear the prayers of men all over the world?

Your finite mind has difficulty comprehending the power of God and the nature of heaven. The Saints in heaven are outside the limitations of time and space and those constraints which impede our comprehension. Scripture tells us that with God all things are possible. Since there is no sin in heaven then what are the prayers of the Saints about and who are they for? 1 Corinthians 13:12 "We see now through a glass in a dark manner; but then face to face. Now I know in part; but then I shall know even as I am known." If we are all saints as you contend, then how is it that believers on earth can intercede for one another by praying for each other and not destroy Christs's role as the one mediator but glorified Saints in heaven cannot? James 5:16 "Confess therefore your sins one to another: and pray one for another, that you may be saved. For the continual prayer of a just man availeth much."

The church has made mini gods of them ...messengers and servers of man not those worshiping God

Not true. Can you cite that section of the Catechism which elevates the Saints to mini gods? Who makes up the cloud of witnesses over our heads as Paul wrote in Hebrews 12:1?

Your prayers to them are an abomination to God! You steal the Glory of God ...and deny Jesius His role as mediator

Again untrue. You do realize that you'll have to answer for these remarks, don't you? It's truly sad that you've strayed, like so many others, so far from the truth.

1 Timothy 2:1-5 "I desire therefore, first of all, that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all men: For kings, and for all that are in high station: and that we may lead a quiet and a peaceable life in all piety and chastity. For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour, Who will have all men to be saved, and to come to the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and one mediator of God and men, the man Christ Jesus:"

Still waiting for you to provide that quote from Scripture stating those in heaven are dead. Did Elijah and Enoch die after being taken to heaven?

306 posted on 09/04/2002 5:05:56 PM PDT by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
Your finite mind has difficulty comprehending the power of God and the nature of heaven. The Saints in heaven are outside the limitations of time and space and those constraints which impede our comprehension.

So you are saying that saints are omnipresent and mini gods . You ascribe the traits of God to his creation

Your prayers to them are an abomination to God! You steal the Glory of God ...and deny Jesius His role as mediator Again untrue. You do realize that you'll have to answer for these remarks, don't you? It's truly sad that you've strayed, like so many others, so far from the truth.

Deuteronomy 18:9-12, "When thou art come into the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations. There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch, Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer. For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee."

Exodus 20:2-3, "I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Thou shalt have no other gods before me."

308 posted on 09/04/2002 6:10:39 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
Your finite mind has difficulty comprehending the power of God and the nature of heaven. The Saints in heaven are outside the limitations of time and space and those constraints which impede our comprehension. Scripture tells us that with God all things are possible.

Yes, thank you! A mystery, incomprehensible for most of our human minds. Which is why faith is so difficult at times, I suppose.

311 posted on 09/04/2002 9:24:13 PM PDT by MarMema
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