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To: Matchett-PI; fortheDeclaration
One of the historical issues that troubles me is that that "church israelism" has freed many in Europe to be anti-semitic. Since Israel is no longer part of God's program for the ages, hasn't that been used as an excuse in the various purges and pogroms seen throughout Europe?

A special case in point is Martin Luther who absolutely hated Jews. Luther's works were used WITHOUT change by Goebbels as anti-semitic propaganda during the holocaust to mislead many Christians into turning a blind eye to the plight of the Jews. Luther also had little appreciation for the Book of Revelation.

Does "church israelism" of necessity lead to anti-semitism....of course not. But removing Jews from the prophetic picture renders them an afterthought, a footnote.
4 posted on 09/02/2002 1:52:07 PM PDT by xzins
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To: xzins; maestro; Woodkirk
One of the historical issues that troubles me is that that "church israelism" has freed many in Europe to be anti-semitic. Since Israel is no longer part of God's program for the ages, hasn't that been used as an excuse in the various purges and pogroms seen throughout Europe? A special case in point is Martin Luther who absolutely hated Jews. Luther's works were used WITHOUT change by Goebbels as anti-semitic propaganda during the holocaust to mislead many Christians into turning a blind eye to the plight of the Jews. Luther also had little appreciation for the Book of Revelation. Does "church israelism" of necessity lead to anti-semitism....of course not. But removing Jews from the prophetic picture renders them an afterthought, a footnote.

The Bible is very clear on assuming the idea that God is done with Israel, it states that those who do so are 'wise in their own conceit'

For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in (Rom.11:25)

The confusion comes in not understanding the difference between the Church's blessing (Kingdom of God-Rom.14:17) and the blessings promised to Israel (Kingdom of Heaven-Daniel 2).

It is said correctly, that the two clear proof's for the existence of God is the fact that we still have the Bible and the Jew!

If Satan had had his way, both would have been gone a long time ago.

God promised that He would preserve both and has!

5 posted on 09/02/2002 2:00:08 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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To: xzins
Non sequitur.

What does any of what you wrote (appealing to the emotion-driven) have to do with addressing and/or refuting the _Scriptural points_ made by Lee Irons in his paper?

6 posted on 09/02/2002 2:28:05 PM PDT by Matchett-PI
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