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To: HDMZ
You and your fellow LIARS, should be aware that this "document" of renunciation was placed in front of Cardinal Ottaviani to sign when he was in the hospital AFTER HE HAD BECOME BLIND! HE READ IT!!?? I DON'T THINK SO!!!!!!!!!
Ah yes. We can see the dramatic changes to just one small section of the Novus Ordo GIRM that were made after Ottaviani’s intervention. We can see how many of his objections were actually addressed. But when, in response to those changes, he withdraws his objections – something a normal sane person would do – we are told he wasn’t even capable enough to have really meant it.

He’s a great authority, a bulwark of orthodoxy.

Until he does something we don’t like, then he’s a blind invalid, incapable of having the Novus Ordo and the GIRM even read to him so he can see if he still has any objections or not.

What a convincing position you have there.

patent  +AMDG

26 posted on 08/31/2002 8:14:25 PM PDT by patent
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To: patent
Ah yes. We can see the dramatic changes to just one small section of the Novus Ordo GIRM that were made after Ottaviani’s intervention.

<> It is worth noting that some commentators have referred to the "First Ottavaiani intervention" as meaning his letter from the Holy Office to the ArchBishop of Boston re Fr. Feeney. That letter condemns just the sort of private judgement that hdmz, ultima et al engage in daily. What the first Ottaviani intervention says is that their actions are no different than Feeney's:<>

Hence, one cannot understand how the St. Benedict Center can consistently claim to be a Catholic school and wish to be accounted such, and yet not conform to the prescriptions of canons 1381 and 1382 of the Code of Canon Law, and continue to exist as a source of discord and rebellion against ecclesiastical authority and as a source of the disturbance of many consciences.

Furthermore, it is beyond understanding how a member of a religious Institute, namely Father Feeney, presents himself as a "Defender of the Faith," and at the same time does not hesitate to attack the catechetical instruction proposed by lawful authorities, and has not even feared to incur grave sanctions threatened by the sacred canons because of his serious violations of his duties as a religious, a priest, and an ordinary member of the Church.

Finally, it is in no wise to be tolerated that certain Catholics shall claim for themselves the right to publish a periodical, for the purpose of spreading theological doctrines, without the permission of competent Church authority, called the "" which is prescribed by the sacred canons.

Therefore, let them who in grave peril are ranged against the Church seriously bear in mind that after "Rome has spoken" they cannot be excused even by reasons of good faith. Certainly, their bond and duty of obedience toward the Church is much graver than that of those who as yet are related to the Church "only by an unconscious desire." Let them realize that they are children of the Church, lovingly nourished by her with the milk of doctrine and the sacraments, and hence, having heard the clear voice of their Mother, they cannot be excused from culpable ignorance, and therefore to them apply without any restriction that principle: submission to the Catholic Church and to the Sovereign Pontiff is required as necessary for salvation.

In sending this letter, I declare my profound esteem, and remain,

Your Excellency's most devoted,

+ F. Cardinal Marchetti-Selvaggiani.

A. Ottaviani, Assessor. (Private); Holy Office, 8 Aug., 1949.

<> I think this bears repeating for all those sedes and schizmeisters out there<>

and therefore to them apply without any restriction that principle: submission to the Catholic Church and to the Sovereign Pontiff is required as necessary for salvation -------------------------------------------------------------------

38 posted on 09/01/2002 2:54:20 AM PDT by Catholicguy
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