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WM: Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

This refers to the joy we felt when we learned (at a gathering we call the Council in Heaven) that the time had come for God to create this earth and place us here, and for us to receive a physical body, to experience opposition in all things, to learn and grow in ways unique to this mortal condition.

Drj: Consistent with Hebrew synonymous parallel poetry the two phrases...

the morning stars sang together
the sons of God shouted for joy

... are the same group -- not different groups. It makes more sense that these are angels not angels AND mythical pre-mortals. This is fully consistent with Hebrew poetry which rhymes ideas rather than sounds.

WM: The LORD was asking Job a series of "where were you when" questions, and if Job knew the right answers, he would have said that he was there, present and accounted for, and among those shouting for joy!

Drj: Job didn't know the right answer because in fact he was not there. Your statement again assumes your theology is true (Job was there pre-mortally).

Eisegesis = reading one's presuppositions into the text so we can bring them out with authority!

I must admit your eisegesis is more creative than Joseph Smith's brazen substitution of words in Romans 8:30 and declaring Prophet's Prerogative!

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None of the other passages cited prove your point either. Pure eisegesis. I responded to this one for sake of time and will let others shoot down your 'sitting duck' proof texts.

the morning stars sang together the sons of God shouted for joy ... are the same group -- not different groups. It makes more sense that these are angels not angels AND mythical pre-mortals. This is fully consistent with Hebrew poetry which rhymes ideas rather than sounds.

I think they believe that angels are NOT a seperate creation....they are disembodied spirits

Your #17: Consistent with Hebrew synonymous parallel poetry the two phrases... the morning stars sang together / the sons of God shouted for joy ... are the same group

That's right, same group. We were the angels (hosts) of heaven before we were born here. Job was there, and you, and I. It gives you an idea how far we have fallen in coming here, what we have fallen from, and to what the atonement of Christ will restore the faithful.