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To: Jean Chauvin
God is not the "author " of evil. Evil is the design of man BUT not one thing eithor good or evil happens without God permission.. God being sovereign in this world designed man and knows his choices before he is ever born. He is in charge 13 posted on 8/18/02 8:20 AM Eastern by RnMomof7 [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies | Report Abuse ]

You and Rn need to talk.

I believe that there is a semantic difficulty here. I was saying earlier that I understand the Westminster Confession to remove God one or two steps from the responsibility for evil. In my mind, it's good that they do that.

1. see post 16 by Drstevej. It was a reply to my earlier question similar to the above.

2. I replied to DrJ as follows quoting section I of the portion of the W. Confession he had posted:
yet so, as thereby neither is God the author of sin,[66] nor is violence offered to the will of the creatures; nor is the liberty or contingency of second causes taken away, but rather established.[67]

That's the part that I always considered to be the caveat. I read it saying, (1) calvinism doesn't claim God to be the author of sin, (2) calvinism doesn't claim that anyone's will is taken away, (3) the 2nd cause thing is hazy for me, but I'm taking it to mean that God created everything, but that doesn't mean that other things that flow from that original creation can't be laid at God's doorstep. Do I have this right?

42 posted on 08/18/2002 8:15:22 PM PDT by xzins
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To: xzins; RnMomof7; CCWoody; Jerry_M
Now x, I simply asked some questions! I made no declaration at all.

However, my question was NOT "Is God the 'author' of evil?"

My questions were in response to your statement that "God...did not design evil."

Since, as you claim, God did not 'design' evil, I'm asking you (not RnMomof7) 'Who did?'

Does the 'system' of evil 'co-exist' along side of God? Or is God all that is eternal?

Jean

43 posted on 08/18/2002 8:39:18 PM PDT by Jean Chauvin
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