Photo Review: Ecumenical 'Event' At Assisi

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	Pope John Paul II (C) gathers with other religious leaders for a prayer in St. Francis Basilica January 24, 2002. Leaders of world's religions, from Christians to Muslims, from Buddhists to animists, met in Assisi Italy on Thursday to blow against the winds of war and pledge never again to use God's name to justify violence. REUTERS/Paolo Cocco	Geshe Tashi Tsering, representing Tibetan spiritual leader the Dalai Lama, delivers his speech during the Day of Prayer for Peace in the World ceremony in the square of Assisi's Lower Basilica of St. Francis, central Italy, Thursday, Jan. 24, 2002. Imams, patriarchs, monks and rabbis from around the world joined Pope John Paul II on Thursday to pray for peace in a ceremony designed to proclaim that religion must never be used to justify violence. (AP Photo/Pier Paolo Cito)
	Representatives of different religions light candles during their daylong retreat to pray for peace in front of Assisi's Lower Basilica of St. Francis, central Italy as Pope John Paul II sits in the background Thursday, Jan. 24, 2002. Imams, patriarchs, monks and rabbis from around the world joined the pontiff on Thursday to pray for peace in a ceremony designed to proclaim that religion must never be used to justify violence. (AP Photo/Pier Paolo Cito)	Pope John Paul II, left, looks down as Jewish representatives carrying candles walk past Pope John Paul II, left, during a celebration for peace in front of Assisi's Lower Basilica of St. Francis, central Italy, Thursday, Jan. 24, 2002. Imams, patriarchs, monks and rabbis from around the world joined Pope John Paul II on Thursday to pray for peace in a ceremony designed to proclaim that religion must never be used to justify violence. (AP Photo/Pier Paolo Cito)
	Patriarch Bartholomew I, spiritual head of the world's Orthodox Christians, Pope John Paul II, and Anglican Bishop Richard Garrard, from left, pray in Assisi, Italy's St. Francis lower basilica, Thursday, Jan. 24, 2002. Representatives of the world's religionsjoin the pontiff to pray for peace in a ceremony designed to proclaim that religion must never be used to justify violence. (AP Photo/Plinio Lepri)	Buddhists pray inside Assisi's Franciscan convent, in central Italy, during a day of prayer for peace in the world, Thursday, Jan. 24, 2002. Imams, patriarchs, monks and rabbis from around the world joined Pope John Paul II on Thursday to pray for peace in a ceremony designed to proclaim that religion must never be used to justify violence. (AP Photo/Crocchioni, POOL)

[Catholicguy]

I am curiousas to your motives for pinging the scismatic to each time you ping the orthodox. Of course he agrees with you. Are you trying to stir up trouble? grrr

I know you are not shy. My comment was meant tongue-in-cheek :)

[Catholicguy]

I have been in the arena since my confirmation. As for masons, why should you care?

I care because Catholics are not supposed to be members of Masonry.

They're right up there with the Buddhists and Muslims on the way to heaven.

Well, we do not know who is going to Heaven but I agree with you that those going to Heaven would likely include some Buddhists and Muslims.

[drstevej]

Re-read the post. I declined to reply because of the nature of the dialogue not shyness. Talking past each other is useless.

[Catholicguy]

I know you are not shy. My comment was meant tongue-in-cheek :)

[Catholicguy]

By whose authority do I teach? Teaching is a spiritual gift and also a responsibility of every believer. Authority in teaching is based upon fidelity to His Word, the source of authority

Show me in the New Testament where you have been given authority to Teach

[Catholicguy]

What happens when there is disagreement as to interpretation? Depends upon the issue and context.

Calvin is your authority. Why not just say it clearly? You thnk xins wrong in is interepretation of the Bible because he contradicts Calvin. You think for the declaration wrong because he contradicts Calvin. You think RnMom right because she agrees with you and Calvin. You think Catholics wrong because Calvin opposed the Catholic Church.

[drstevej]

wrong. More yada, yada, yada

[drstevej]

1Thou therefore, my son, be strong in the grace that is in Christ Jesus. 2And the things that thou hast heard of me among many witnesses, the same commit thou to faithful men, who shall be able to teach others also. - 2 Timothy 2

These things teach and exhort. 3If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; 4He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, 5Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself. - 1 Timothy 6

[Catholicguy]

Calvin is not your authority? I have lurked on the calvinists threas and witness you saying repeatedly you are a 4 point Calvinist. Was that yada, yad, yada or were you serious?

[Catholicguy]

Just wanted to be sure you thought you had the same authority to teach as the Catholic Church established by Jesus. And, you have authority to Teach the OPPOSITE of what the Catholic Church teaches. That makes perfect sense to me:)

No arrogance there :)

[NYer]

What is truth? "Thy Word is truth."

Now, I'm really confused. According to my bible:

3 Timothy 14-16, Although I hope to visit you soon, I am writing you about these matters so that if I should be delayed you will know what kind of conduct befits a member of God's household, the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of truth.

"The Church", was founded by Christ, when He said to Peter, "Thou art Peter and upon this rock (petrus), I will build my church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. Right?

Where does tradition fit in with your teaching? And, what about literary form?

[Land of the Irish]

That's what the Muslims did as they flew the jets into the Twin Towers. (Of course they were praying to a false god).

Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't that rather go against the intent of Asissi?

Absolutley not, both Assisi meetings encouraged high representatives of false religions to practice those religions and worship their false gods; and that is exactly what those Muslim highjackers did.

[drstevej]

4 Point Calvinist or Amyraldian is shorthand notation to indicate my beliefs in the area of soteriology. As a lurker on the threads you surely know Calvin is not my authority despite the fact that on some points I am in agreement. I differ on many points, including infant baptism.

Stop the games.

[drstevej]

Feel free to follow the Catholic Church. Feel free to consider all who disagree with the Catholic Church arrogant. I will continue to teach the Bible whether you approve or not.

Let the lurkers decide where the arrogance lies.

:)

[B-Chan]

The symbolism of the Orthodox patriarch and the Anglican bishop sitting on the pope's right and left were, to me, devastatingly striking.

Moi aussi. I love that photo; it gives me hope. Today, we sit together by free choice. Someday the Orthodox, Catholic, and Anglican Christians will cling together as the lions circle around us.

I even hold out hope that the Mohammedan heretics will one day foreswear their heresy and join the true Flock.

God bless His Holiness!

B-chan

[drstevej]

petros [rock] is not the same as petra [a rock, a ledge or shelf of rock - Liddel Scott] in the Greek. Jesus uses two different words here. Why?

You assume the church of the living God is the Roman Catholic Church alone. I do not. A church with a false gospel is a false church.

Tradition may make void the Word of God (As was the case with the Pharisees). Bereans were considered noble by Paul for searching the Scriptures to verify the truth of his proclamations. Scripture governs tradition.

Not sure what the question about lterary form was asking.

[Catholicguy]

4 Point Calvinist or Amyraldian is shorthand notation to indicate my beliefs in the area of soteriology. As a lurker on the threads you surely know Calvin is not my authority despite the fact that on some points I am in agreement. I differ on many points, including infant baptism.

As I say, i find the calvinistic taxonomy redondite. I only go by what I see - you repeatedly state you are a 4 point Calvinist; which, I am now to understand, means Calvin isn't authoritative? I can't keep up :)

Stop the games <PP No games, just observations

[drstevej]

*** i find the calvinistic taxonomy redondite [SIC]***

Wisdom will die with you.