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Oh, Lord, I think I'm getting that same headache again!

This subject has to be the most controversial subject with just about every one of us. I'm glad you posted the "back and forth" between Sungenis and Likoudis, there are some great points to be made on both sides of the issue.

Nothing at all controversial:

I am the Lord Thy God. Thou shalt not have strange gods before me.

The Pope was wrong, dead wrong--twice. People on this site will believe he did no wrong because they are frightened by the prospect that their pope may not be fully traditional or fully in line with past teachings. But this is a new unCatholic teaching, another in a string of novelties. It has nothing whatsoever to do with the faith and opposes every previous teaching on our relations with other religions. It has given grave scandal. I know it confirms me in my opposition to another in a series of flagrant violatons of traditional Catholicism.

Oh,Lord,I think I'm getting that same headache again!

Ditto me.It is too bad that the latest negotiations that included a Personal Prelature,as I understand,couldn't have included a codicil----"because of the unfortunate circumstances which led to such a sad situation,and in order that it not happen again,we declare that should anyone in the curia ever seek to suppress Quo Primam(or whatever)and the Tridentine Mass,IT WILL NOT HAPPEN AGAIN EVER AND THEY WILL BE ANATHEMATIZED??!!!"

I certainly can understand the mistrust of those people since the "progressives" have wheeled,dealed,spun and twisted so many concepts and used words to make them mean what they wanted them to mean. On the other hand, the contemptuousness with which the Traditionalists treat those that place allegience on Scripture,Tradition and the Pope and his teaching Magisterium is often very off putting.

I pray daily that this issue resolve shortly or at least the one side learn how to be a little less overreactive at the mere mention of certain words.