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St. John of the Cross
CIN ^ | Kurt F. Reinhardt

Posted on 08/04/2002 5:46:22 PM PDT by JMJ333

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To: JMJ333
We miss you and your wisdom and knowledge!

BTTT on 12-14-03

St. John of the Cross -- 2003
41 posted on 12/14/2003 4:18:03 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: JMJ333
Howdy JMJ333. Hope all's well with you.

Steve
42 posted on 12/14/2003 4:22:45 PM PST by drstevej (Exurge, Calvinisti, et judica causam tuam)
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To: JMJ333

That picture takes my breath away every time I see it!


43 posted on 12/14/2004 7:00:33 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: JMJ333

BTTT on 12-14-04, Memorial of St. John of the Cross!


44 posted on 12/14/2004 7:01:46 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: All
American Cathlic's Saint of the Day

December 14, 2004
St. John of the Cross
(1541-1591)

John is a saint because his life was a heroic effort to live up to his name: “of the Cross.” The folly of the cross came to full realization in time. “Whoever wishes to come after me must deny himself, take up his cross, and follow me” (Mark 8:34b) is the story of John’s life. The Paschal Mystery—through death to life—strongly marks John as reformer, mystic-poet and theologian-priest.

Ordained a Carmelite priest at 25 (1567), John met Teresa of Jesus (Avila) and like her vowed himself to the primitive Rule of the Carmelites. As partner with Teresa and in his own right, John engaged in the work of reform, and came to experience the price of reform: increasing opposition, misunderstanding, persecution, imprisonment. He came to know the cross acutely—to experience the dying of Jesus—as he sat month after month in his dark, damp, narrow cell with only his God!

Yet, the paradox! In this dying of imprisonment John came to life, uttering poetry. In the darkness of the dungeon, John’s spirit came into the Light. There are many mystics, many poets; John is unique as mystic-poet, expressing in his prison-cross the ecstasy of mystical union with God in the Spiritual Canticle.

But as agony leads to ecstasy, so John had his Ascent to Mt. Carmel, as he named it in his prose masterpiece. As man-Christian-Carmelite, he experienced in himself this purifying ascent; as spiritual director, he sensed it in others; as psychologist-theologian, he described and analyzed it in his prose writings. His prose works are outstanding in underscoring the cost of discipleship, the path of union with God: rigorous discipline, abandonment, purification. Uniquely and strongly John underlines the gospel paradox: The cross leads to resurrection, agony to ecstasy, darkness to light, abandonment to possession, denial to self to union with God. If you want to save your life, you must lose it. John is truly “of the Cross.” He died at 49—a life short, but full.

Comment:

John in his life and writings has a crucial word for us today. We tend to be rich, soft, comfortable. We shrink even from words like self-denial, mortification, purification, asceticism, discipline. We run from the cross. John’s message—like the gospel—is loud and clear: Don’t—if you really want to live!

Quote:

Thomas Merton said of John: "Just as we can never separate asceticism from mysticism, so in St. John of the Cross we find darkness and light, suffering and joy, sacrifice and love united together so closely that they seem at times to be identified."

In John's words:
"Never was fount so clear,
undimmed and bright;
From it alone, I know proceeds all light
although 'tis night."



45 posted on 12/14/2004 7:20:59 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: JMJ333

BTTT on the Memorial of St. John of the Cross, prieist and doctor of the Church, 12-14-05!


46 posted on 12/14/2005 8:09:26 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

1. One dark night,
fired with love's urgent longings
- ah, the sheer grace! -
I went out unseen,
my house being now all stilled.

2. In darkness, and secure,
by the secret ladder, disguised,
- ah, the sheer grace! -
in darkness and concealment,
my house being now all stilled.

3. On that glad night
in secret, for no one saw me,
nor did I look at anything
with no other light or guide
than the one that burned in my heart.

4. This guided me
more surely than the light of noon
to where he was awaiting me
- him I knew so well -
there in a place where no one appeared.

5. O guiding night!
O night more lovely than the dawn!
O night that has united
the Lover with his beloved,
transforming the beloved in her Lover.

6. Upon my flowering breast,
which I kept wholly for him alone,
there he lay sleeping,
and I caressing him
there in a breeze from the fanning cedars.

7. When the breeze blew from the turret,
as I parted his hair,
it wounded my neck
with its gentle hand,
suspending all my senses.

8. I abandoned and forgot myself,
laying my face on my Beloved;
all things ceased; I went out from myself,
leaving my cares
forgotten among the lilies.

St. John of the Cross is one my my heros. Brave and intense in his devotion, and a wonderous poet, to boot.


47 posted on 12/14/2005 8:21:24 AM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
O Love's living flame,
Tenderly you wound
My soul's deepest center!
Since you no longer evade me,
Will you, please, at last conclude:
Rend the veil of this sweet encounter!

O cautery so tender!
O pampered wound!
O soft hand! O touch so delicately strange,
Tasting of eternal life
And canceling all debts!
Killing, death into life you change!

O lamps of fiery lure,
In whose shining transparence
The deep cavern of the senses,
Blind and obscure,
Warmth and light, with strange flares,
Gives with the lover's caresses!

How tame and loving
Your memory rises in my breast,
Where secretly only you live,
And in your fragrant breathing,
Full of goodness and grace,
How delicately in love you make me feel!

48 posted on 12/14/2005 8:41:05 AM PST by Carolina
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Thanks for your poetry!


49 posted on 12/14/2005 8:42:50 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Carolina

This must be a hymn, correct?


50 posted on 12/14/2005 8:44:04 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: JMJ333
1. The writer seems to think John painted the picture, which is by Dali.

2. The Dark Night, in John as well as other mystics, is decidedly NOT a stage of life brought about by external suffering (as the writer seems to think), neither is it the normal sadnesses we all go through, nor the ups and downs of living, nor is it depression, nor is it even an aridity in prayer. It is not an emotional privation.

It is a distinct and unique stage in which all consolation and sense of Presence is explicitly removed (usually suddenly) and can continue for years, then just as suddenly cease.

John makes all this clear.

Also, the Orthodox mystics know little (I won't say none) of a Dark Night, since their dogmatic and liturgical culture is focused on the Taborite Light and the Resurrection.

Having said that, I love them all, from John to Madame Guyon to Eckhart to Theophan the Recluse to Symeon the New Theologian to protestants like Rees Howells and Frank Laubach.

51 posted on 12/14/2005 8:58:03 AM PST by Taliesan (The power of the State to do good is the power of the State to do evil.)
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To: Salvation
No, it's St. John of the Cross' The Living Flame poem.
52 posted on 12/14/2005 9:17:53 AM PST by Carolina
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To: Carolina

Thanks for improving my knowledge of St. John of the Cross!


53 posted on 12/14/2005 9:22:27 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: JMJ333

Reading A Spiritual Canticle of St John of the Cross
Recognising the mystery hidden within Christ Jesus
Though holy doctors have uncovered many mysteries and wonders, and devout souls have understood them in this earthly condition of ours, yet the greater part still remains to be unfolded by them, and even to be understood by them.
We must then dig deeply in Christ. He is like a rich mine with many pockets containing treasures: however deep we dig we will never find their end or their limit. Indeed, in every pocket new seams of fresh riches are discovered on all sides.
For this reason the apostle Paul said of Christ: In him are hidden all the treasures of the wisdom and knowledge of God. The soul cannot enter into these treasures, nor attain them, unless it first crosses into and enters the thicket of suffering, enduring interior and exterior labours, and unless it first receives from God very many blessings in the intellect and in the senses, and has undergone long spiritual training.
All these are lesser things, disposing the soul for the lofty sanctuary of the knowledge of the mysteries of Christ: this is the highest wisdom attainable in this life.
Would that men might come at last to see that it is quite impossible to reach the thicket of the riches and wisdom of God except by first entering the thicket of much suffering, in such a way that the soul finds there its consolation and desire. The soul that longs for divine wisdom chooses first, and in truth, to enter the thicket of the cross.
Saint Paul therefore urges the Ephesians not to grow weary in the midst of tribulations, but to be steadfast and rooted and grounded in love, so that they may know with all the saints the breadth, the length, the height and the depth – to know what is beyond knowledge, the love of Christ, so as to be filled with all the fullness of God.
The gate that gives entry into these riches of his wisdom is the cross; because it is a narrow gate, while many seek the joys that can be gained through it, it is given to few to desire to pass through it.


54 posted on 12/14/2006 9:33:55 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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