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It is actually wrong to call Calvinists "Calvinist" because they are doing nothing other than using the same body of doctrine that Calvin used, who in turn copied Augustine, who in turn copied the church fathers and they, who in turn, followed Christ and the Apostles.

As a former Calvinist who has now come home to the one true Church, I find it reprehensible that you should denigrate one of our greatest Doctors by accusing Saint Augustine of providing the bases for Calvin's heresies.

Along with all the Church Fathers Augustine was Catholic:

"A man cannot have salvation, except in the Catholic Church. Outside the Catholic Church he can have everything except salvation. He can have honor, he can have Sacraments, he can sing alleluia, he can answer amen, he can possess the gospel, he can have and preach faith in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit; but never except in the Catholic Church will he be able to find salvation."
Sermo ad Caesariensis ecclesia plebem Emerito praesente habitus. September 18th A.D. 418

Its a shame that Calvin did not follow the teachings of Augustine - it might have spared millions of souls.

Its a shame that Calvin did not follow the teachings of Augustine - it might have spared millions of souls.

Very well put, Tantumergo.

That last part bears repeating:

"it might have spared millions of souls"

As in, Calvinism has led to the loss of souls that would have made it to heaven were it not for him taking them from the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church.

I like your screen name!

RnMomof7:

Time is short.

You know too much from your time here to claim ignorance before the Judgement Seat. Repent and believe.

"A man cannot have salvation, except in the Catholic Church. Outside the Catholic Church he can have everything except salvation.

And Illbay the Mormon says I can't have it unless I join his temple.

What is a church made up of? Is it Christ alone? Or is it a group of people? In your case and in Illbay's case it's that and a bunch of opinions of men that you want me to believe over the revealed word of God who teaches me Himself. You both want me to embrace the traditions of men and leave the traditions of God. You both would have me throw out the revealed and holy Word for the writings of theologians and prophets who do not fit the strict guidelines for prophets revealed to me by God. You both want me to be in awe of your big edifaces and your wealth. You want to bring a pantheon of semi-deities of gods and goddesses before me and have me bow down to them, kiss their rings in some instances. God has told me what He'll do to me the day that I do, and it's not pretty. Illbay wants me to learn the rules of tithing before he will agree to baptize me. And on and on. All this idea of religion is manmade. You hold it up and it makes you proud as a papa, like you have done it all yourselves, which you have. You thus worship yourselves, not God. He said all he wanted was the tabernacle not made with human hands for His abode. Hint: You will find it in the desert eating bread and Tishbite stew. Shalom my friend.

As a former Calvinist who has now come home to the one true Church, I find it reprehensible that you should denigrate one of our greatest Doctors by accusing Saint Augustine of providing the bases for Calvin's heresies.

You may have known the doctrines of Calvin...that would make you a Calvinist in name..