To: Polycarp
It is nice that we have concern for each other.
I do not undrstand how quickly you deny the gift God gave you poly..I am concerned..Not that you chose to be catholic but that you have lost your first love and replaced it with a religious system and man made practices..that does not bode well for you my friend..
2Pe 2:19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.
2Pe 2:20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
2Pe 2:21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known [it], to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
2Pe 2:22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog [is] turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.
To: RnMomof7
Not that you chose to be catholic but that you have lost your first love and replaced it with a religious system and man made practicesWhat a joke. Straw man as usual. I hope you read that thread that describes your debating here.
To: RnMomof7
2Pe 2:20 For if AFTER THEY HAVE ESCAPED THE POLLUTIONS of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
2Pe 2:21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, AFTER THEY HAVE KNOWN (IT), to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
2Pe 2:22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog {IS} TURNED to his own vomit again; and the sow that WAS washed to her wallowing in the mire.
These may be cute polemical verses to throw at someone but they sure don't support your theory of election and pre-destination!!
If these people escaped the pollutions of the world,knew the way of righteousness, and were washed of their sins in baptism, then how come they returned to the vomit and mire if they were elect and pre-destined???
I suppose you will say that they were never pre-destined, but they surely must have thought they were before they lapsed!
If they can turn back, how do you KNOW that you will not? How do you KNOW that you are one of those pre-destined for glory and not one of those poor fools who accepted Jesus as your Lord and Saviour, received baptism and the remmission of sins, but then whoops, sorry - must have been in the wrong queue?
It is obvious that the first Pope didn't believe in your doctrine of "once saved always saved".
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