That made me pity you Poly. You have a faith built on shifting sands
And that is a hard saying
You constantly misread that scripture and your ENTIRE faith in God rests on it
The Hard saying was really election and predestination
And that is too hard for you..so you will walk away
Jhn 6:42 And they said, Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? how is it then that he saith, I came down from heaven?
They were amazed at the teaching of a ordinary man ..the son of questionable parentage claiming the status of God (Yes they understood He was talking about the manna that fed their ancestors)
Jhn 6:43 Jesus therefore answered and said unto them, Murmur not among yourselves.
Now here He teaches election to them..
Jhn 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
Jhn 6:45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.
Jhn 6:46 Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.
Jhn 6:47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.
Jhn 6:48 I am that bread of life.
And here He states it again..He is the manna in the desert. He was telling them He was God
They knew the "I am" and they knew the manna was from heaven
And now he told them that NO man can just decide to come..the father sends them
And then He teaches that again
Jhn 6:61 When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this offend you?
Jhn 6:62 [What] and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?
Jhn 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, [they] are spirit, and [they] are life.
But there are some of you that believe not.
Poly THEN and only then did they walk away..They like you reject the election of the God of creation
It is of some interest that the verse is 666 the number of man "And ye shall be as gods"
And that is a hard saying
I'm really worried about you RnMom. Honestly. Sincerely. You've turned your back on Christ in the Eucharist just as those who left and walked with Him no more.
You think you are walking with Him. You stopped when you left Him.
But He is still awaiting your return.
Time is late. I have my salvation, whether I am right or you are right. However, if I am right you left your salvation when you turned your back on Him in the Eucharist.
You are playing a dangerous gamble. No Christians before 500 years ago believed the false gospel you embraced when you rejected the True Gospel and the True Presence.
Time is short.
You have no excuse before God.
Come home.
It is truly remarkable the mental gymnastics you Calvinists go through to explain away the simple sense of scripture found in John 6. You even have the temerity to suggest that John 6 is about predestination/election to the exclusion of the plain sense of John 6, which is that Christ literally gives us His flesh and blood to literally eat in the Eucharist. No Christian ever denied this till the revolt of the reformers---This [your] rejection of the Real Presence is the definition of apostacy, the textbook example.
You are lost, and you know it, but you refuse to admit it.
Time is short. He is waiting. How long will you refuse Him?