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To: Don'tMessWithTexas; xzins
There is nothing 'false' about Xzins view on Calvinism's Decree. It makes the Cross of Christ a secondary issue, not the primary historical issue that it is.
This doctrine is highly dishonorable to Jesus Christ our Saviour. For (1) it entirly excludes him from that decree of predestination which predestinates the end; and it affirms that men were predestinated to be saved, before Christ was predestinated to save them; and thus, it argues that he is not the foundation of election. It denies, that Christ is the meritorious cause, that again obtained for us the salvation which we had lost, by placing him as only a subordinate cause of that salvation which had been already foreordained, and thus only a minister and instrument to apply that salvation unto us. (The Works of Arminius, Vol.1, p.630)
It is Calvinism that preaches a 'false Gospel' that is why Calvinistic soul winners do not preach it, they preach like Arminians.
79 posted on 07/28/2002 5:05:52 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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To: fortheDeclaration
Rather than merely stating your propostion that Calvinism is false, answer the questions that I posed to xzins which are the logical consequences of his "gospel." If you do not want to do so and merely want to throw back the disputable words of Arminius in response, then we really cannot have a discussion can we?
82 posted on 07/28/2002 5:17:18 AM PDT by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: fortheDeclaration
It is Calvinism that preaches a 'false Gospel' that is why Calvinistic soul winners do not preach it, they preach like Arminians.

Please do not lob bombs and run away. Explain what you mean by that statement.

By the way, while you are answering questions, the Bible clearly teaches that the Father predestinates his people. What is the basis of that predestination? Is it based on the sovereign pleasure of God or is it based on something meritorious in man?

83 posted on 07/28/2002 5:27:21 AM PDT by Don'tMessWithTexas
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