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To: P-Marlowe

I can't seem to separate where you disagree with me from where you agree with me. Why don't you just post your opinion in your own words. Then after you post your opinion we can compare it to mine and then determine if there is a disagreement. :-)

Focus on this:

con·tin·gent

n.

  1. An event or condition that is likely but not inevitable.

  2. A share or quota, as of troops, contributed to a general effort.

  3. A representative group forming part of an assemblage.

If you are going to maintain that the natural fallen man is likely to believe, then you are going to need to provide Biblical scriptures to back you up. Until then, I will maintain that "Salvation is of the Lord."

I will say, however that your contention that God only loved a small part of the world is one example of how Calvinists must twist the scripture to conform to their theology.

Let me say that mercy is God's "attitude" toward some of us in the world. I'm not sure exactly what you mean when you say that "God has love toward every sinner" unless you mean that the common grace extends to every man alike. Nevertheless God does not love everyone:

How do you reconcile verses which say that God hates the wicked to mean that God loves the wicked?
565 posted on 08/01/2002 9:10:38 AM PDT by CCWoody
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To: CCWoody
Gotta Go to a Depo. I'll respond later.
566 posted on 08/01/2002 9:15:47 AM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: CCWoody; xzins; drstevej; fortheDeclaration; Revelation 911; The Grammarian
How do you reconcile verses which say that God hates the wicked to mean that God loves the wicked?

Is there some verse that says that God cannot hate something while at the same time loving it. Did not God love us while we were yet sinners? And while we were yet sinners were we not in open rebellion against God? And while we were in open rebellion against God, did not God hate us?

It seems to me that you are limiting God's sovereignty by stating that it is impossible for God to both love and hate something at the same time. Indeed if God is omnipotent, can he not both love and hate at the same time? Can he not extend his Love toward us while He still views us in a state of sin and thus an abomination to his eyes? Is he not powerful enough to do that? Is his sovereignty limited to only loving or hating?

I don't have to reconcile the problem. The scriptures state that God loved the World (not some little portion of the World) and that he loved us while we were yet sinners.

Anyone who claims that it is impossible to love something and hate it at the same time has never played golf.

570 posted on 08/01/2002 2:42:40 PM PDT by P-Marlowe
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