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To: xzins
If you believe that God can be resisted by man, then you have a man who is equal to or superior to God. Therefore, God is not transcendent over his creature. He would not be sovereign and He would be, therefore, no longer God.

Second, the operation of grace in the heart of an individual is such that the individual is made able and willing to believe. Therefore, the individual is irresistibly drawn to God. At the same time, the individual never does anything against his will. The person actually wants to be a Christian.

The doctrine of irresistible grace is such a comfort because it says that God will overcome any device erected by an individual to reconcile that person to God. If salvation depended on my assent to anything before God moved, then I would be lost.
14 posted on 07/26/2002 5:40:07 AM PDT by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas
If you believe that God can be resisted by man, then you have a man who is equal to or superior to God. Therefore, God is not transcendent over his creature. He would not be sovereign and He would be, therefore, no longer God.

I appreciate your believing what you believe.

I, though, am a bible literalist and I find many passages that say that people resisted God, but I find none that specifically say "God overcame so-and-so's will and forced him to believe."

There are numerous passages above that testify to individuals resisting the Lord. That means it is the correct teaching. There are many others not listed here.

As a matter of bible teaching the calvinist position lacks scriptural support.

15 posted on 07/26/2002 5:48:36 AM PDT by xzins
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas
Well said.

An eloquent Calvinist, Texan. Awesome.

Don't Mess with Don'tMessWithTexas!
18 posted on 07/26/2002 6:13:10 AM PDT by drstevej
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas
"If salvation depended on my assent to anything before God moved, then I would be lost."

Amen!

109 posted on 07/28/2002 4:01:08 PM PDT by zadok
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