[NYer]

That Vatican II hit the Church at the same time as the aggressive counter-culture in America and the social convulsions of the 1960s was significant.

Yes, but do you believe this was coincidental or intentional? Having researched the origin of Vatican II, Pope John XXIII would have us believe that "it was completely unexpected, like a flash of heavenly light". Whereas, Paul VI observed the "smoke of satan" had entered the vestibule.

As catholics, we believe that the Pope is "divinely" inspired; when else in the course of history, has the church undergone such a dramatic change?

[HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity]

Unfortunately, no crystal ball has given me insight into the motives or expectations of the pope or the other visionaries of Vatican II. As for the secular counter-culture, certainly there was some deliberate social engineering directed at changing attitudes in American society.

[Domestic Church]

"Yes, but do you believe this was coincidental or intentional?"

Is anything truly coincidence?

[Domestic Church]

"Having researched the origin of Vatican II, Pope John XXIII would have us believe that "it was completely unexpected, like a flash of heavenly light". Whereas, Paul VI observed the "smoke of satan" had entered the vestibule."

And wouldn't you expect that opposites would attract? That the flash of heavenly light would draw the smoke is underestandable but the Divine Grace will dance all the more for it.