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To: fortheDeclaration
"In a new revision of his Loci which appeared in 1548..."

", now what part of that passage do not understand? Do you see the will being equal with the Spirit and the word in the Salvation event?"

ftd, ftd, ftd! Again! the Loci is ~NOT~ where the controversy comes from. If you were able to read the entire quote of Melanchthon in context, one would note (perhaps -you- wouldn't) that Melanchthon was not talking about the initial act of conversion. He was discussing the life of the believer!!! (Does it make you think something that Luther never condemned Melanchthon's 'Common Places'????? -this quote is nearly identical to Loci published before Luther died)

(Hint: Can you tell me how Melanchthon defined conversion??????????)

In otherwords, Schaff is WRONG!!!

"You have given nothing back that would even remotely suggest the historians are wrong. Not one fact, just a bunch of hot air!"

Why would I need to? I'm still waiting for you to prove your case!! LOL!

Jean

95 posted on 07/01/2002 1:39:16 PM PDT by Jean Chauvin
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To: Jean Chauvin; xzins; winstonchurchill; Revelation 911; The Grammarian
The Reformed Doctrine Of Predestination by Loraine Boettner D.D.a Copyright 1932 by Loraine Boettner

Among the past and present advocates of this doctrine are to be found some of the world's greatest and wisest men. It was taught not only by Calvin, but by Luther, Zwingli, Melanchthon (although Melanchthon later retreated toward the Semi-Pelagian position)(emphasis mine), by Bullinger, Bucer, and all of the outstanding leaders in the Reformation.

Here is a quote from Boettner! No doubt he is wrong also!

96 posted on 07/01/2002 1:43:29 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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To: Jean Chauvin; xzins; winstonchurchill; Revelation 911; The Grammarian
Why would I need to? I'm still waiting for you to prove your case!! LOL!

Case proven! LOL!

He, that being often reproved hardeneth his neck, shall suddenly be destroyed, and that without remedy.(Pro.29:1)

102 posted on 07/01/2002 4:25:00 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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