Now, since it is works vs grace
My thesis is as follows:
The Arminian contends that God has made salvation possible for all men whereas the Calvinist contends that God as made salvation certain for a vast multitude from every nation and tribe and tongue and people group of which God alone knows the number. For the sake of logical charity, we will concede to the "possible salvation" of all men and examine its characteristics. By doing so we will show conclusively by this concession that a mere "possible salvation" cannot be a salvation by grace.
Faith is not a work (Rom.4:5)
My thesis is as follows: The Arminian contends that God has made salvation possible for all men whereas the Calvinist contends that God as made salvation certain for a vast multitude from every nation and tribe and tongue and people group of which God alone knows the number. For the sake of logical charity, we will concede to the "possible salvation" of all men and examine its characteristics. By doing so we will show conclusively by this concession that a mere "possible salvation" cannot be a salvation by grace.
Is that the same thesis you were working on before? It appears to have changed!
Salvation is possible to all men.(Jn.3:16,Rom.10:13) God wants all men saved (1Tim.2:4).
The grace is God doing all the work of paying for man's sins and then offering salvation as a free gift (Rom.6:23), which man can accept or reject (Jn.3:36)
Woody, you need to spend less time on logical constructs and just go read your Bible.
I do not know where you guys get the idea that you are all logical geniuses.
I do note that you all try to prove Calvinism with a philosophical approach and not a scriptural one.