No, Schaff quoted Melanchthon directly, you did not. You have no clue of the context of these comments. Actually, you do since I've already informed you several times that Schaff's quotation from the Loci is out of context. But -suprise suprise- you don't listen very well.
For the umpteenth time, the Loci is not where the controversy arose. Melanchthon was talking about the life of the CURRENT believer. This is simply basic historical fact, ftd.
Now, if you could find an actual ~direct~ quote of Melanchthon -in context- in which he takes an Arminianesque position.... (I won't hold my breath) ;)
"You have been exposed for the fraud that you are!"
LOL! Why don't you ask Grams to send you the info he read in the introduction to the 1555 English translation of the 'Common Places' -that is if he still has the book checked out. We'll see if he's willing to admit it.
He can look here: xxxvii, xl
(Goodness, I had begged him to provide a quote from Melanchthon to back up his charge that Melanchthon dumped monergism and predestination -and he had works of Melanchthon directly in front of him. He never did. Why do you think that is?)
Jean
The context look fine to me. He gave the Latin footnote showing that Melanchthon was speaking about salvation, and the responsibility of the human will in it.
For the umpteenth time, the Loci is not where the controversy arose. Melanchthon was talking about the life of the CURRENT believer. This is simply basic historical fact, ftd.
He is? Not according to the footnotes I saw! He was talking about the grace of God and the responsibilty to say yes to grace and not to resist it. That is right from the Loci.
Now, if you could find an actual ~direct~ quote of Melanchthon -in context- in which he takes an Arminianesque position.... (I won't hold my breath) ;)
Already did! Did you see the quote from the Loci? It is even clear enough for your feeble mind to grasp!
"You have been exposed for the fraud that you are!" (Goodness, I had begged him to provide a quote from Melanchthon to back up his charge that Melanchthon dumped monergism and predestination -and he had works of Melanchthon directly in front of him. He never did. Why do you think that is?)
Jean, you are a liar and a fraud. I gave you the Latin quote from the Loci stating that Melanchthon had accepted the human will as having the ability to say no to the grace of God!
I gave you four historians who stated that Melancthon had gone synergistic, including a Calvinist one.
That Melanchthon moved away from Predestination is an historical fact.
By the way, are you talking to yourself? What is this speaking in the third person?
Do not bother me with anymore of your lame posts.
You provided no counter information, just alot of double-talking nonsense.