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To: RonF
Well, I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Jesus Christ is my Savior. The same Christ who was born of the virgin Mary, who taught at an early age in the temple, who turned water into wine, who did many miracles (including healing the sick, causing the blind to see, causing the lame to walk, raising the dead and feeding thousands wiuth a few loaves of bread among others).

He suffered in the Garden and died on the Cross for our sins on condition of our accepting Him as our Savior and having a "change" come over us where our desire is repent of our sins and become like Him and follow Him ... for as He said, "If you love me, keep my commandments".

No other thing that we can do can provide this redemption, it is only through acceptance of Him and His sacrifice and atonement that we can be saved. My church teaches this and I accept it ... He is my personal Savior. If this is true, then most probably by your own definition, the other interpretations where we may differ do not matter for I am saved in Christ ... and I am.

I have many friends, amny of them right here on FReeRepublic who are Baptist, Catholic, Methodist and any number of other Christian denomination who know me personally and would number me as a fellow Christian. I challenge you to ask some of them through FRemail, privatley if this is not so. I will be happy tom give you some fairly well-known names on FR privately so you can do this if you so desire. This is not for my own edification for I already know where I stand in this equation and I think my Savior for it, but it is to help you understand the mistaken claim that you have made.

In the end, my "Christianity" and my salvation is not a matter of your or any other interpretation, nor yours mine ... thank God. It is between each of us and our Savior and His Father, our Father in Heaven.

But He has told us that by our fruits we would know them and He used the story of the good Samaritan to illustrate it. I pray we can all not only profess Christ with our tounges, but emulate Him and thus profess Him with our actions, with our very lives.

If we do this, then we each, in our own faiths, can focus on fighting our mutual and common enemies who would destroy all of our liberty to worship our God ... instead of bickering amongst ourselves.

FRegards.

80 posted on 06/19/2002 2:14:27 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Jeff Head
I hope that those were not family heirloom pearls that you just cast. The level of fantasy here would make for a spectacular yet nauseating movie.

And the "anti-" rhetoric never changes, even though it is spewed by the usual suspects who have been answered and informed otherwise on numerous occasions......

84 posted on 06/19/2002 2:22:34 PM PDT by tracer
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To: Jeff Head
RE: Your post 80. Well said!
157 posted on 06/19/2002 5:07:22 PM PDT by donozark
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To: Jeff Head
From a Protestant, who is not particularly fond of the history of your religion. Excellent post, and witness!
160 posted on 06/19/2002 5:12:21 PM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: Jeff Head
Thanks for your comments on this issue, Jeff.

I guess it's all a matter of definition. Something that Mormons and "Christians" will be debating for a long time. Under some definitions (such as acceptance of the early Christian "creeds"), even Mormons would not consider themselves Christian.

By the way, if we define Christian using the "by their fruits ye shall know them" criteria as well as your stated beliefs, I would consider you a very good Christian.

I will keep reading and learning more.

323 posted on 06/20/2002 12:48:23 PM PDT by wai-ming
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