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What never ceases to amaze me is that on a supposedly conservative web forum, there are a handful of godless pagans who delight in stirring up trouble, and continually posting this heathen bulls---.

Actually the intellectual death of conservatism will be when the fundies win and drive out everyone who believes in the validity of science as a means to understand reality.

"The validity of science as a means to understand reality."

The "reality" of the mind is that it is separate from the material brain, and thus cannot be quantified by science and never will. A human spirit or soul if you will, is NOT subject to being bottled up in a jar -- unless you think it possible?

It is only human arrogance that demands everything be "proven" scientifically in a lab or else it is invalid.

Im a "fundie" yet I believe in evolution to an extent. I dont believe we were from an ape, but I do believe that we conform to our surroundings after thousands of years. Are you saying all "fundies" are stupid? Take that attitude to DU where they appreciate it.

Actually the intellectual death of conservatism will be when the fundies win and drive out everyone who believes in the validity of science as a means to understand reality.

Typical evolutionist rant - beating up on non-existent strawmen. Most scientists believe in God and they do not consider their profession inimical to their religion.

Further, it must be added, that evolution is the anti-science. Science is about discovering the truth, evolution is about discovering justifications for its theory. Science is undirected, evolution tries to direct science for an ideological purpose.

The first hint that Darwin was a racist can be seen in the subtitle selected for his “Origin of Species.” The words chosen were: “The Preservation of Favored Races in the Struggle for Life.” This subtitle has been eliminated from all modern printings of the book, but it’s in bold letters on the original. If there is any doubt that Darwin was a raging racist, these words should leave no doubt: “At some future period (Darwin writes), not very distant as measured by centuries, the civilized races of man will almost certainly exterminate and replace the savage races throughout the world. At the same time the anthropomorphous apes (the black race) ... will no doubt be exterminated. The break between man and his nearest Allies will then be wider, for it will intervene between man in a more civilized state, as we may hope, even than the Caucasian, and some ape as low as the baboon, instead of as now between the Negro or Australian and the gorilla.”

A half century later, Darwin follower Henry Fairfield Osborn writes: “The Negroid stock is even more ancient than the Caucasian and Mongolian, as may be proved by an examination not only of the brain, of the hair, of the bodily characters, such as the teeth, the genitalia, the sense organs, but of the instincts, the intelligence. The standard of intelligence of the average Negro is similar to that of the eleven-year-old youth of the species Homo sapiens [light skinned races, according to Darwinists].

It should be no surprise that no less a racist villain than Adolph Hitler picked up on Darwin’s evolutionary theories. Karl Schleunes writes: “Darwin’s notion of struggle for survival was quickly appropriated by the racist ... such struggle, legitimized by the latest scientific views, justified the racists’ conception of superior and inferior peoples ... and validated the struggle between them”

Before Darwin’s works, many racists had questioned whether blacks were of the same species as whites, but they had no scientific foundation for their predjudice. Things changed once Darwin presented his racist evolutionary schema. Darwin stated that the African race could not survive competition with their white near-relations, let alone be able to compete with the white race. According to Darwin, the African was inferior because he represented the ‘missing-link’ between ape and Teuton (John C. Burham, Science, vol. 175 (February 4, 1972) p.506). It should come as no surprise that the secularist movement of the day quickly espoused Darwin’s racist evolutionary theories.

“Scientists who utterly reject Evolution may be one of our fastest-growing controversial minorities… Many of the scientists supporting this position hold impressive credentials in science” (Larry Hatfield, “Educators Against Darwin,” Science Digest Special, Winter, 1979, pp.9ff).

“Evolution is a fairy tale for grown-ups. This theory has helped nothing in the progress of science. It is useless” (Professor Louis Bounoure, Former: President of the Biological Society of Stassbourg, Director of the Strassbourg Zoological Museum, Director of Research at the French National Centre of Scientific Research, writing in “The Advocate,” March 8, 1984, p. 17).