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To: safisoft
Please. I've read this an others - they say nothing of the immutability of G-d. Read Daniel chapter 4. Scripture is rife with proof of G-d's immutability. Even our own weak logic says that He Who is All Knowing, cannot "change" His mind.

Last sentence first, you are right, you are expressing weak human logic, not what the Word of God says. Following your logic, God set man up as the fall guy, then committed the first capital punishment on the earth, since He is all knowing.

There are a number of times in the Bible God changes things, especially His operating instructions to man. In the dietary commands alone, which are simple to track, which do we follow? Do we only eat salads and vegetables, or the meat of any animal we can catch, or only selected meats that are clean, or all things as long as we receive them with thanksgiving. All are Scriptural. God changes His instructions and in order to be in His will, man needs to follow the instructions God has in operation at that time.

What you're doing is confusing the immutable nature and character of God with His ability to change whatever and whenever He wants. He is sovereign which gives Him the privilege to change things. However, He always was, is and will be God. He will fulfill each and every promise He makes and has made. He will live up to His covenants with Israel because He is the one who made the covenants and they are irrevocable. But to say God has never changed anything is to be blind to what's in His Book.

142 posted on 06/06/2002 3:30:54 PM PDT by gracebeliever
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To: gracebeliever
What you're doing is confusing the immutable nature and character of God with His ability to change whatever and whenever He wants. He is sovereign which gives Him the privilege to change things. However, He always was, is and will be God. He will fulfill each and every promise He makes and has made. He will live up to His covenants with Israel because He is the one who made the covenants and they are irrevocable. But to say God has never changed anything is to be blind to what's in His Book.

Last things first as well... I never said that G-d did not change anything. My original post was quite clear that when commenting on what G-d has said, we must first adhere to the principle that G-d is immutable. My point in bring up G-d's immutability was as a starting point in the fact that He keeps His word. G-d's character is consistent with His actions (He is and has integrity). If He is immutable, then His actions will be as well.

You are confusing progressive revelation with a "changing mind." G-d does not "change His mind". Having said that, I see that although you enjoyed pointing out what you thought was my ignorance to Genesis 6, you were not negating my point, which was that when G-d says something, it is a verily thus.

I find your mention of G-d's sovereignty curious because your previous posts would indicate that you may not truly believe in the "Sovereignty of G-d" as it is most often described. Any Calvinist would bristle at the comment regarding G-d "changing His mind".

For men indeed swear by the greater, and an oath for confirmation is for them an end of all dispute. Thus God, determining to show more abundantly to the heirs of promise the immutability of His counsel, confirmed it by an oath, that by two immutable things, in which it is impossible for God to lie, we might have strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold of the hope set before us." (Heb 6:16-18)
187 posted on 06/07/2002 1:26:59 PM PDT by safisoft
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